Live data from Hacker News

Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

vice.com

281–290 of 640 posts

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If parler users believe it is important to them and to society as they say... what's the problem with just opening up a web browser and going to parler.com anyway? That's too big a burden for something so vitally important to it's users? I mean, don't get me wrong, I get that there are issues with corporate monopoly control of communication. And there are some things that will only work well as an app, not as a web p…

This is such a weird line of assertion that I wonder if you'd apply it in any other context. The problem doesn't just exist for dedicated Parler die-hards. The problem exists for Parler trying to become a compelling platform at all among everyone else. And that problem exists for all Parler users including all the would-be users and all people trying to develop a following on Parler. > Oh no we have to go to a bookma…

> You don't want to be lacking a notification system as a fledgling social media platform. Just consider how every time someone receives a "X replied to you" notification and returns to the app, how that enriches the entire platform.

HN seems to have done fine without it :)

ps. please don't tell me that I am too dumb to find out how to turn them on.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just, like, his opinion man. Let's see what comes out of this data dump before getting too sanguine about loss of "free speech".

> "free speech". On this topic, I've seen reports on Twitter and Reddit of people who don't fit Parler's "prescribed worldview" being banned. Not so free after all.

Didn't they recently take down Trump affiliate Lin Wood's post about executing Pence?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#283

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

I'm curious where someone just gets 56.7 tb of storage that quickly.

All the content was hosted on s3 and you just needed the URL's, security by obscurity.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Premise of AWS for me: reasonably priced (not cheap!) linux VM, close to the backbone, essentially total control of the VM, easy provisioning of new disk storage when required (i.e. EC2 with a smidgeon of EBS) The rest of it? I think I understand why some systems need/want it, but no thanks.

Depends on what you’re doing. At the scale $EMPLOYER works at, AWS built in services are key. Things like DynamoDB global tables are extremely hard to run on your own, and things similar to AuroraDB and Kinesis can be run on your own but they take up a lot of personnel hours better spent focusing on product. We could probably eliminate those services and self-run, but it would be an extremely unwise usage of company…

> We could probably eliminate those services and self-run, but it would be an extremely unwise usage of company time and money.

Unless $EMPLOYER was Parler ...

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#285
post #161
post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. The level of security failure was pretty incredible. They named media serially (So, pics/1.jpg, pics/2.jpg, etc.) and did not have any validation that you were allowed to access what you were grabbing so it was literally as easy as possible to grab everything. Oh, and did I mention that private messages were also fully accessible?

I am convinced this was an inside job. There is simply no way someone can be this incompetent without willful intent.

You take shortcuts. Saying you’ll fix it later. Which never happens because you’re busy on the next feature that is riddled with the next set of shortcuts.

It happens.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious where someone just gets 56.7 tb of storage that quickly.

Im more curious how someone pulls down 56 terabytes in a very short period of time without sysadmins at parler noticing. I'm surprised they didn't unintentionally DoS them.

Parler used AWS and AWS is always happy to serve any request without problems and notify you about it hours later if you decided to create usage alerts.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#287
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps Parler did not realize that being aligned with conservatism was grounds for deplatforming. I am sure they will learn as will the whole world.

Fortunately being aligned with conservatism isn't grounds for deplatforming, as can be seen by the literal millions of conservatives on twitter who haven't been deplatformed. It's easy: you have a discussion about your political beliefs without telling the other person you're going to murder them for disagreeing with you.

Can we please move on from the assertion and justification of the very real censorship push on the grounds that "they all deserved it" by claiming that all the people deplatformed were "telling the other person you're going to murder them for disagreeing with you"?

This is an intellectually dishonest take at best. I won't speculate on the other end of the spectrum.

I for one am disgusted at how servile about censorship readers of HN have been lately just because it was their percieved enemy who was being attacked, without understanding that this will be applied to $notenemy later. I've frequently complained about the state of "too many MBAs and not enough hackers" here but fuck the last few months really brought that out. Starting to wish I knew if there is a hn where the more anti-authoritarian types hung out.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever worked for a startup? This is what "move fast, break things" does.

I have but only at competent ones. Nothing this flagrantly bad.

I’ve seen not quite this bad but definitely in the same order of magnitude

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

#290

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

Someone put together an animated heatmap of Parler photo locations along the Mall throughout the day of 1/6: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kvx88n/oc_...

Even better, here are the videos along with their locations:

https://www.tommycarstensen.com/terrorism/index.html

Post reply on HN