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Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

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Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

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post #19

Wow, talk about shooting yourself (Lodsys) in the foot - As above, in the notice letters we have seen, Lodsys uses screenshots that expressly identify the App Store as the entity that purportedly collects and manages the results of these user interactions at a central location. Thus, the technology that is targeted in your notice letters is technology that Apple is expressly licensed under the Lodsys patents to offer…

That's not Apple shooting itself in the foot. It's Apple saying "this isn't between devs and Lodsys, it's between Apple and Lodsys". EDIT: As pointed out by bcrescimanno, I may have misunderstood who shot themselves in the foot. :)

I think you misunderstood; it was Lodsys shooting itself in the foot--not apple.

Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

#23
post #19

Wow, talk about shooting yourself (Lodsys) in the foot - As above, in the notice letters we have seen, Lodsys uses screenshots that expressly identify the App Store as the entity that purportedly collects and manages the results of these user interactions at a central location. Thus, the technology that is targeted in your notice letters is technology that Apple is expressly licensed under the Lodsys patents to offer…

That's not Apple shooting itself in the foot. It's Apple saying "this isn't between devs and Lodsys, it's between Apple and Lodsys". EDIT: As pointed out by bcrescimanno, I may have misunderstood who shot themselves in the foot. :)

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Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

#24
post #19

Wow, talk about shooting yourself (Lodsys) in the foot - As above, in the notice letters we have seen, Lodsys uses screenshots that expressly identify the App Store as the entity that purportedly collects and manages the results of these user interactions at a central location. Thus, the technology that is targeted in your notice letters is technology that Apple is expressly licensed under the Lodsys patents to offer…

That's not Apple shooting itself in the foot. It's Apple saying "this isn't between devs and Lodsys, it's between Apple and Lodsys". EDIT: As pointed out by bcrescimanno, I may have misunderstood who shot themselves in the foot. :)

I think that it was indicating that Lodsys has shot itself, not Apple, due to the way they presented their claim. Could be wrong...

Edit. Beat me...

Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

#25

Wow, talk about shooting yourself (Lodsys) in the foot - As above, in the notice letters we have seen, Lodsys uses screenshots that expressly identify the App Store as the entity that purportedly collects and manages the results of these user interactions at a central location. Thus, the technology that is targeted in your notice letters is technology that Apple is expressly licensed under the Lodsys patents to offer…

I don't think there is anything inherent in the Android (or Microsoft) model that would prevent them from entering into similar arrangements.

Although maybe that is whats holding up in-app payments for Android?

Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

#26

On my Mac this page pops up a big full-page ad for some kind of "Clean My Mac!" software. I'm invited to press a "Try it Now" button. If this is legit software it is marketed by someone who doesn't mind that their ad looks and smells exactly like a trojan. [EDIT: Or, as suggested below, someone has exploited a JS vulnerability.] EDIT: Modding up the "Macworld" link below. [MORE EDIT: Removed suggestion that this thin…

It makes me sad to say so, but this looks like trolling.

Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

#28
post #17

On my Mac this page pops up a big full-page ad for some kind of "Clean My Mac!" software. I'm invited to press a "Try it Now" button. If this is legit software it is marketed by someone who doesn't mind that their ad looks and smells exactly like a trojan. [EDIT: Or, as suggested below, someone has exploited a JS vulnerability.] EDIT: Modding up the "Macworld" link below. [MORE EDIT: Removed suggestion that this thin…

I've seen these Mac Defender and Mac Protector popups on some reputable sites, so I'm not sure it's the site that is "permitting" it. I think the trojan is taking advantage of some JavaScript vulnerability.

Probably the old fashion way, via a javascript ad. I use adblock and saw nothing which strengthen the ad-hypothesis.

Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

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post #7
post #5

Don't forget, though, that this is unlikely to be the end. Lodsys clearly disagrees with this, given that they sent the letters to the developers, and will probably take Apple to court over whether the license applies to the app makers or not.

but at least the legal burden then falls on Apple and not mom & pop app dev. Worst case scenario I'd expect Apple pays Lodsys an undisclosed sum to license the tech for the devs.

Hmm, you don't think Lodsys reckoned the same way, do you?

Re: Apple Tells Lodsys Patent Troll to Back Off

#30
post #17

On my Mac this page pops up a big full-page ad for some kind of "Clean My Mac!" software. I'm invited to press a "Try it Now" button. If this is legit software it is marketed by someone who doesn't mind that their ad looks and smells exactly like a trojan. [EDIT: Or, as suggested below, someone has exploited a JS vulnerability.] EDIT: Modding up the "Macworld" link below. [MORE EDIT: Removed suggestion that this thin…

I've seen these Mac Defender and Mac Protector popups on some reputable sites, so I'm not sure it's the site that is "permitting" it. I think the trojan is taking advantage of some JavaScript vulnerability.

Hm, an excellent point. We should alert them, then.
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