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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by f430 »

excannuck wrote: post #167
f430 wrote: post #144

I genuinely believe that this is a case of incompetence willful or not. Who knows, maybe someone at parler knew and never raised the issue because they were disgruntled and actively shot down security measures....kind of like what I did before Basically a startup I worked for 12 years ago were fucking me big time on compensation so I purposefully argued against encrypting the database knowing how shoddy their securit…

You just admitted to purposely hijacking your employer's product development to harm them. You also admitted to acting in bad faith. You probably just admitted to a crime. Certainly you've opened yourself up to a lawsuit to make the victims of the hack whole. You're looking at some very serious legal trouble.

I doubt that.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by kodah »

f430 wrote: post #144

I genuinely believe that this is a case of incompetence willful or not. Who knows, maybe someone at parler knew and never raised the issue because they were disgruntled and actively shot down security measures....kind of like what I did before Basically a startup I worked for 12 years ago were fucking me big time on compensation so I purposefully argued against encrypting the database knowing how shoddy their securit…

You have likely confessed to a crime. If not a crime, you have committed a serious software-related ethical violation and should not work in software again.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by aabhay »

WClayFerguson wrote: post #168

I've been telling developers for years if you build your infrastructure on top of tons of 3rd party services like Google Cloud or AWS then you basically don't own it, and can be shut down any day, against your will. Web companies should build on "Linux" only, as their base platform, so they own everything above that. I was a fan of Parler but building on AWS was a huge mistake, and they should have realized they were…

It is increasingly, vanishingly hard to not use the big three cloud services. Mainly because any platform or tool you might use is _also_ hosted on these clouds.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by Earwig »

CameronNemo wrote: post #160
paranoidrobot wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of all the things to criticise Parler's tech folks over, using ISO8601 (minus the non-digit characters) shouldn't be one.

Is ISO8601 without punctuation still ISO8601? Most log parsers I have seen would not pick up the Parker format. ex gr https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html#datetime.dat... https://github.com/elastic/logstash/blob/v1.4.2/patterns/gro...

Yes... kind of. Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601, there is a "basic format" without separators and an "extended format" that includes them for readability. However, a T is still required to separate the date and time in the most recent version of the standard.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by gameswithgo »

WClayFerguson wrote: post #168

I've been telling developers for years if you build your infrastructure on top of tons of 3rd party services like Google Cloud or AWS then you basically don't own it, and can be shut down any day, against your will. Web companies should build on "Linux" only, as their base platform, so they own everything above that. I was a fan of Parler but building on AWS was a huge mistake, and they should have realized they were…

according to parler they did what you suggest

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by excannuck »

f430 wrote: post #159
fukF430Spyders wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are wrong for doing that and you should feel bad but you can't. F

cmon now this is unecessary. do you have $200,000 CAD or not?

That doesn't make sense....

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by WClayFerguson »

aabhay wrote: post #173
WClayFerguson wrote: post #168

I've been telling developers for years if you build your infrastructure on top of tons of 3rd party services like Google Cloud or AWS then you basically don't own it, and can be shut down any day, against your will. Web companies should build on "Linux" only, as their base platform, so they own everything above that. I was a fan of Parler but building on AWS was a huge mistake, and they should have realized they were…

It is increasingly, vanishingly hard to not use the big three cloud services. Mainly because any platform or tool you might use is _also_ hosted on these clouds.

You can build on Java + SpringBoot + MySQL + Linux + Docker Compose, then what else do you really need?

I mean there's tons of technology stacks to choose from, but people get lazy and take the easy way out rather than learning to scale servers themselves.

Get on Linode. It's base on Linux instances. If you build on Linux you are "free" and not "owned"

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by WClayFerguson »

gameswithgo wrote: post #175
WClayFerguson wrote: post #168

I've been telling developers for years if you build your infrastructure on top of tons of 3rd party services like Google Cloud or AWS then you basically don't own it, and can be shut down any day, against your will. Web companies should build on "Linux" only, as their base platform, so they own everything above that. I was a fan of Parler but building on AWS was a huge mistake, and they should have realized they were…

according to parler they did what you suggest

Parler used AWS. I suggested avoid AWS. What am I missing. I might be missing something.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by redisman »

f430 wrote: post #161
Exmoor wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. The level of security failure was pretty incredible. They named media serially (So, pics/1.jpg, pics/2.jpg, etc.) and did not have any validation that you were allowed to access what you were grabbing so it was literally as easy as possible to grab everything. Oh, and did I mention that private messages were also fully accessible?

I am convinced this was an inside job. There is simply no way someone can be this incompetent without willful intent.

Let me introduce you to every early stage startup in the world. Plenty of mature companies also have completely abysmal security practices

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by f430 »

excannuck wrote: post #165
f430 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't have FBI in Canada Nor do we have any labour watchdogs I'd like to live in a country where developers were protected.

We have the Royal Canadian Mounted Police which is the same thing. A federal level police force tasked and empowered with investigating these types of crimes. We also have provincial level human rights courts And we do have labor watchdogs, again, the courts, and in Canada they lean very heavily towards workers in interpreting very strict labor laws. However, Canada is also filled with self-righteous descendants (I m…

Look the RCMP isn't going to raid a startup because they find human rights violation going on

Sure we got watchdogs but those are meant for blue collar workers with union.

> However, Canada is also filled with self-righteous descendants (I mean it culturally) of puritans who take it upon themselves to adjudicate others.

I 100% AGREE. When I dated an 18yo everybody flipped and said I was the worst.

> (Quebec excepted. They're cool. Also, not Canada)

I love Montreal man. It is the Thailand of Canada. When I went there I felt free for the first time in my 30+ years in Canada.

Where are you now? I am thinking of moving to Thailand or Japan where people aren't so uppity about dating young women (or men, I respect all orientation)

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