Ironic the article is in Vice considering one of its founders (Gavin McInnes) also founded the Proud Boys.
Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#42In contrast, Gab actually owns their own ASN and announces their own routes[1]. Much harder to deplatform. I'd expect no less from a YC alum! [1] https://bgp.he.net/AS42651
The powers that be are now trying to “deplatform” Gab through their landlord... Crazy.
At least in the Soviet Union, or in China today, people were less hypocritical about censorship.
It’s my core political belief: you can believe in anything, but own that belief. Don’t use weasel arguments like “but it’s not censorship because it’s not the government”.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#43"We don't condone gun violence. We believe that the world needs less guns, not more of them. We believe however that these prints will stay on the internets regardless of blocks and censorship, since that's how the internets works. If there's a lunatic out there who wants to print guns to kill people, he or she will do it. With or without TPB. Better to have these prints out in the open internets (TPB) and up for pee…
Seems reasonable to me! If your reason for existing is that "information wants to be free" but then you start making exceptions when it conflicts with your politics, people might think your real political philosophy is "pop music wants to be free."
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please point out which websites have been blocked in browsers.
At this point - do you really think Apple is above this?
This is not a good argument, please go back to the drawing board.
You are making the extraordinary claim, so you are the one that needs to provide evidence.
No browser vendor has blocked any sites in the way you are describing. Not Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or IE. At best, you'll get a warning when you are about to hit a malware site, but that's about it. You can click right past it.
So no, what you are saying is ridiculous, and you should really feel uniformed and silly for suggesting it was likely.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are ToS at Colo facilities also, renting rack space isn't foolproof either.
For a few thousand dollars a month I operate my own servers in n>1 physical locations with different companies and different transit providers. I figured it out. Pirate Bay figured it out. Any company that genuinely cares about eliminating SPOFs has figured it out.
Perhaps Parler did not realize that being aligned with conservatism was grounds for deplatforming. I am sure they will learn as will the whole world.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#46In contrast, Gab actually owns their own ASN and announces their own routes[1]. Much harder to deplatform. I'd expect no less from a YC alum! [1] https://bgp.he.net/AS42651
They're only advertising to one peer. It's possible they have other peering arrangements in place they're not advertising to. Or maybe they're single homed. They also only have a single IPv4 /24 from ARIN. No IPv6. Not terribly robust or impressive.
I've never used Gab or looked at their infrastructure before. A quick look shows they're behind Cloudflare. No clue where they're actually hosted or what the infra looks like but I wouldn't be surprised if they just snatched up this /24 "because they could" and are just sitting on it.
I doubt this is where their backend actually is. Single homed isn't a great idea in the first place and if HE pulls the plug they're lights out until they can get new peering arrangements in place - which usually isn't a quick process in the best of times.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#47Parler decided not to buy their own hardware and rent their own rack space. Plenty of other unpopular websites have figured it out.
You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or d…
Cloudflare maybe (although they did ban a few websites for wrongthink in the past) but domains can be cancelled more easily and even censored by governments (requiring ISPs to do DNS blacklists; that’s how France censors various websites).
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#48Just by looking at how easily their entire db was downloaded, wouldn’t be surprise they hacked most things together and hardcoded a lot of stuff to work with AWS
If I recall, that wasn't the DB of Parler, but of their wordpress blog.
It's still sloppy, but it's not on the same level.
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#49Parler decided not to buy their own hardware and rent their own rack space. Plenty of other unpopular websites have figured it out.
You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or d…
This sounds like double speak. Can you elaborate?
Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or d…
> As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. What does this even mean? Text has to be stored in some physical location, or set of locations.
I think what parent meant was not to say "arrive at this location at this time and do this criminal thing", but I could be reading it wrong.