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The next to last was the most interesting to me... it's gotta be an old April Fools in the NSA Technical Journal. It flatly states we've received signals from outer space, and posits a decoding of them.... https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/decla...
The next to last was the most interesting to me... it's gotta be an old April Fools in the NSA Technical Journal. It flatly states we've received signals from outer space, and posits a decoding of them.... https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/decla...
Intelligence agencies have internal decoding competitions and trainings. This sounds like one of them, simply framed around an alien transmission, and you're just looking at the answer key where it's assumed the reader is familiar with the frame. The entire "transmission" is at the end. To be honest, of all the things we could receive from an alien source, "They transmitted basic set theory and a periodic table at us…
It's not like they could compress a JPG and beam it over here in a way that wouldn't look like garbage.
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Just a wild stab in the dark here but those redactions might have to do with SIGINT. Or in other words, how the UFO report came to be. Because when I saw this headline "NSA UFO Documents Index" hosted on nsa.gov, I realized why I don't care about UFO theories. Because even the NSA has given up. No sane person cares about this stuff. They will readily index it on their website to shut those lunatics up.
Agreed; that said, there's an Ancient Aliens tv series that acts serious but, I think, is mostly recognized for being hilarious...so frivolous I've actually watched it because it's just so laughable.
Went through the CIA one as well, and it's almost designed to be opaque and vague. UFO's create interesting ethical questions and can be useful thought experiments for contemporary issues. A good one is where, say you are checking in on a civilization to see whether it's about to become space faring, and given the amount of energy required for it, the tech is dangerous to any other civilization these recent space arr…
If you say there are civilizations thriving somewhere in the galaxy, you're Carl Sagan. If you say our solar system may have had aliens pass by, you're an eccentric. If you say aliens landed on earth, you're a crank. Why is the sanity of the claimant inversely proportional to the distance of aliens from Earth?
Briefly put: the speed of light. It takes a long, long time to get anywhere, because light moves at a relative crawl compared to the distances between stars, so it would be a long and energy-intensive process to visit another planet, especially given how hard it would be to detect a civilization there before you departed. The Earth didn't emit much of a signal on radio waves until about 1900, so even if the aliens we…
All the speed of light problems can be ameliorated. The entire galaxy could be visited (if not colonized) in a relatively short amount of time by something like a Von Neumann probe at even 0.01c. The 'aliens' needn't be biological.
At this point the existence of the UFO phenomenon is undeniable. The fact that congress attached to the covid relief bill that the intelligence services must present a report of everything they know about ufos within a 180 days tells you that something is up and they are trying to force the hand of the intelligence service. I also find it interesting that since retiring Harry Read has openly talked about the existenc…
I think we can pretty summarily dismiss all of this with, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Given that every inch of the developed world is now covered with high resolution cameras, and UFO sightings via these devices have suspiciously not exploded in number, it's pretty clear that these reports were misidentifications, lies, and counterintelligence operations. Would it be cool if aliens were han…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just a wild stab in the dark here but those redactions might have to do with SIGINT. Or in other words, how the UFO report came to be. Because when I saw this headline "NSA UFO Documents Index" hosted on nsa.gov, I realized why I don't care about UFO theories. Because even the NSA has given up. No sane person cares about this stuff. They will readily index it on their website to shut those lunatics up.
I don't know how you can't at least find this document interesting. It's a first hand account of what was basically a dogfight between a US pilot and a UFO over Iran. https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/decla... Even if you assume that whatever he encountered was made on Earth, its hard not to have questions or be interested in the account.
I'd rather believe this was a combination of natural phenomenon and instrumentation failure than an alien visiting us from far far away.
After reading the text that doubt is definitely still strong.
It starts with conflicting reports from people on the ground.
They are never able to identify what it was.
And also the text reads as if it was written by a "believer" if you know what I mean.
Take this for example; WHEN THE 'F?4' TURNED FROM THE OBJECT AND APPARENTLY WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO IT THE AIRCRAFT REGAINED ALL INSTRUMENTATION
That to me reads like someone who has watched too many scifi movies.
And the report goes on to say that a 2nd object came out of the original object and was estimated to be "half to one third the apparent size of the moon". wtf?
This whole report makes me question the sanity of everyone involved. And since it's now declassified why won't any of the at least 5 airmen involved step forwards?
And besides all that, what motive would these aliens have to come here and fly around with their light shows once a decade?
The next to last was the most interesting to me... it's gotta be an old April Fools in the NSA Technical Journal. It flatly states we've received signals from outer space, and posits a decoding of them.... https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/decla...
Why do you think it is an April Fools prank?
At this point the existence of the UFO phenomenon is undeniable. The fact that congress attached to the covid relief bill that the intelligence services must present a report of everything they know about ufos within a 180 days tells you that something is up and they are trying to force the hand of the intelligence service. I also find it interesting that since retiring Harry Read has openly talked about the existenc…
I think we can pretty summarily dismiss all of this with, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Given that every inch of the developed world is now covered with high resolution cameras, and UFO sightings via these devices have suspiciously not exploded in number, it's pretty clear that these reports were misidentifications, lies, and counterintelligence operations. Would it be cool if aliens were han…
> "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
The evidence gathered by David Fraser et al. is actually quite compelling. Definitly there seem to be natural phenomena that can't be explained by our current scientific understanding.