My personal wishlist for a decentralized social network

Post by jszymborski » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:45 PM UTC

mantap wrote: post #220

jszymborski wrote: post #202

6 or 7 years ago, my own wishlist for such a network would be similar. My top item these days, however, is actually bot or troll farm detection. Social media is cool because you get to participate and overhear conversations that you normally would never have anything to do with. However, bot abuse on website like Twitter and Facebook means that every interaction sooner or later gets brigaded by bots amplifying their…

Isn't this solving the wrong problem? e.g. I don't have any issue with bots on discord. Bots are a problem on twitter and Facebook because neither of those networks is truly social , it is just shouting into the void. Bots can react but they can't interact, make interaction not reaction the foundation of a social network and you nullify the power of bots.

Post by WClayFerguson » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

grishka wrote: post #257

WClayFerguson wrote: post #180

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Your name 'grishka' looks familiar. I'm also an ActivityPub developer ( https://quanta.wiki ). What languages do you develop in, in case we can share code?

Java for the back end, TypeScript for the very lightweight front end.

Post by shipstain » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 6:23 PM UTC

pydry wrote: post #9

lvspiff wrote: post #6

Essentially people want a free social network that doesn't use its users data for mining and advertising, doesn't track user data, doesn't archive their messages if they delete them/their account/they die, and free from moderation. Is that really too much to ask for? The answer is yes - yes it is too much to ask for - you don't get a free service without paying for it in some other way - mostly these days through the…

I'd rather host this and most other internet services on a box in my house, next to my router. Or, it could be my router. Either way. It's just really annoying to do that right now and the solutions that attempt to make it easy and slick aren't quite there. This type of thing could be made more popular with normal people if it's easy enough since popular features which "break" the business models of companies like Fa…

Post by chillacy » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 8:39 PM UTC

busrf wrote: post #240

Ashanmaril wrote: post #171

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The issue is we're already doing too much chasing down individual "bad actors." It's like the #1 hobby these days, everyone is looking for the next person to step out of line so they can drag them into the village square for their stoning. There aren't enough "bad actors" to satiate the mob any more so the definition of "bad actor" has to be continually expanded by the day. Just the last week a musician tweeted somet…

The saga of bean dad is here: https://mobile.twitter.com/ManiacalV/status/1345870405085573... The bean dad attention led people to discover these additional tweets which are much worse than his questionable parenting judgement in that particular thread, and that’s what drove people to stop associating with him: https://www.thewrap.com/bean-dad-deletes-twitter-account-ant... TBH when I first saw that he got chased off…

Post by selfishgene » Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 1:40 AM UTC

selfishgene wrote: post #197

hungryhobo wrote: post #134

I honestly do not understand this fetish with decentralization, do you really want a social network filled with child pornography, violence and other shady stuff? Because that's what's gonna happen guaranteed. People are just animals without rules

With "rules," people are just sheep grazing under the vigilant watch of surveillance capitalism. Decentralization + filters which are either trained by machine learning or appointed by the community that the forum serves (rather than the stockholders that the platform enriches) is what needs to replace Facebook, Parler, etc.