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Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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I admit that I love this UI for cloud management, and I'd love more to be able to use it with GCP too because accessing GCP console is another kind of pain compared to AWS.

GCP support is on the way. To learn more please email support@vantage.sh!

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

#72

Hi HN, Vantage is an alternative to the AWS console focused on developer experience and cost transparency. My background is in public cloud where I was the product lead for DigitalOcean’s Droplet product and at AWS on the container services product management team. Our team is 100% bootstrapped with two technical co-founders and a designer. Vantage is ReadOnly by default and is meant to work alongside your existing a…

Product looks really nice, going to pitch this later this week to our accounting and devops teams.

What made you decide to build this as a separate product instead of advocating for an improved ui while still at Amazon?

I guess to put it bluntly, are their people at Amazon who defend the current state of the console?

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

#73
This is pretty nice, but it's not really an "alternative" to the console, is it? It's a pretty nice complementary monitoring dashboard though. Pricing wise, I have to be honest, I don't see myself paying $50 a month for a monitoring dashboard, as a solo dev or a small company.

Out of curiosity, why do you hide YouTube player controls on home page?

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

#74
Hiya, interesting offering and exploring it now :)

How does this compare to, for example, stax.io which does similar cost transparency but also offers compliance monitoring and other elements?

The company I work with as a $250K/month spend on AWS and uses stax to hassle people to delete unused things :)

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Hi HN, Vantage is an alternative to the AWS console focused on developer experience and cost transparency. My background is in public cloud where I was the product lead for DigitalOcean’s Droplet product and at AWS on the container services product management team. Our team is 100% bootstrapped with two technical co-founders and a designer. Vantage is ReadOnly by default and is meant to work alongside your existing a…

In case it helps, I tried to recount my thoughts in the first few seconds after clicking the link.

"An alternative AWS console" - cool. I'd been wondering if there were any good ones.

What does it look like?

There's a video, but as usual I don't want to watch a product video; I don't want to disturb people by playing audio over the speakers, and it takes too long.

I scroll down… nope, no screenshots.

There's "Get Started for Free", but that's going to lead to some complicated setup process.

Oh well, I'm not interested enough to investigate further. Pass.

…Well, in reality I did investigate further, because I wanted to provide constructive feedback.

It looks like there are some screenshots on the Features page, but they should be on the front page. Also, I didn't initially realize there was a Features page, because with my browser window at 900 pixels wide (half of my MacBook Pro screen), the site dumps the navigation links at the top into a hamburger menu, which I didn't notice and wouldn't want to click. Plus, even after clicking on the screenshots to zoom them, they are too small to comfortably read the text, because they're fit to the window width minus some padding. I'd have preferred if it just showed the screenshot at full size and let me scroll.

I guess this sort of narrow (but not phone-level narrow) window size is uncommon, so it's probably not worth worrying about too much, but that is the experience I had.

Also... I tried clicking Get Started for Free. It wants me to make an account. That's friction. Oh, now it wants me to confirm my email. More friction. Where's the email? Oh, it went to spam, with a scary message in Gmail [1]. Yikes… you should figure out what's going on with that.

I confirmed my email and now it prompts me to link my AWS account. Well, finally. I would have been more likely to sign up (if I were just a potential user rather than someone trying to provide feedback) if clicking the button on the homepage took me directly to the AWS login.

Well, I went ahead and connected…

More issues with my browser width - the Plans page is kind of broken. [2]

The service itself… seems fine for a launch. I like the easy-to-understand breakdown of the monthly cost! On the other hand, the service seems to just provide an overview rather than actually replacing the AWS console. Maybe there would be more functionality if I got off of read-only mode, but I couldn't figure out how.

I proceeded to delete my account. It did not automatically delete the CloudFormation stack that the signup process had me create, which is unfortunate.

[1] https://drop.qoid.us/fah8Eit5.png

[2] https://drop.qoid.us/Ek9ieSoh.png

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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post #75

Hi HN, Vantage is an alternative to the AWS console focused on developer experience and cost transparency. My background is in public cloud where I was the product lead for DigitalOcean’s Droplet product and at AWS on the container services product management team. Our team is 100% bootstrapped with two technical co-founders and a designer. Vantage is ReadOnly by default and is meant to work alongside your existing a…

In case it helps, I tried to recount my thoughts in the first few seconds after clicking the link. "An alternative AWS console" - cool. I'd been wondering if there were any good ones. What does it look like? There's a video, but as usual I don't want to watch a product video; I don't want to disturb people by playing audio over the speakers, and it takes too long. I scroll down… nope, no screenshots. There's "Get Sta…

This is the epitome of a snarky ‘Shown HN’ reply

It’s almost like you’re relishing in finding pointless things to say

“I don’t want to watch a video...waaa waaa waaa”

It’s clearly their first release, chill out. You’re not being constructive, you’re just nitpicking

OP: ignore them, it sounds like a great starting point to making a hell of a lot of peoples lives easier, nice release!

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

#78
I've thought about the idea of re-implementing the AWS console, especially for the ends of a 'focused'/gated experience in the data science field; my reasoning was every service has an API and there is a JavaScript SDK, why not just reimplement the console to my tastes/goals? I'm curious what your architecture/design looks like and whether you ran into any sharp edges: ie is Web UI for a cloud platform really as simple as writing JS to call rest APIs?

Also, I'm wondering if the community has any other open source alternatives I could toy around with and peek under the hood.

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

#79

Hi HN, Vantage is an alternative to the AWS console focused on developer experience and cost transparency. My background is in public cloud where I was the product lead for DigitalOcean’s Droplet product and at AWS on the container services product management team. Our team is 100% bootstrapped with two technical co-founders and a designer. Vantage is ReadOnly by default and is meant to work alongside your existing a…

Product looks really nice, going to pitch this later this week to our accounting and devops teams. What made you decide to build this as a separate product instead of advocating for an improved ui while still at Amazon? I guess to put it bluntly, are their people at Amazon who defend the current state of the console?

Great - feel free to email me if you need any help at ben@vantage.sh

In all honesty it wasn't part of my purview while at AWS and I was happily focused on container services at the time (ECS/Fargate/EKS/etc). I think in order to make necessary changes at AWS on this level you'd really need a full reorganization of how teams are setup. We have a lot of liberties by starting fresh.

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