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Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by bberenberg »

StratusBen wrote: post #26
bberenberg wrote: post #24

Am I understanding correctly that if I have over 500 a month in spend there is no free trial option? Also FYI the email verification hit my spam box on Gmail. Edit: Also is there any way to have multiple users on a Vantage account?

If you have over $500 per month of AWS spend, you are still free to use the product (no credit card required to get started) and everything will work but certain features will be restricted. For example, cost transparency reports will require an upgrade to use for spend over $500 per month. The specifics are detailed on our pricing page here: https://vantage.sh/pricing We are taking a look at what it would take to of…

Makes a lot of sense. Theres an interesting item I noticed:

-You limit based on spend

-You don't support all AWS Services

-As a result you don't see all of our spend

-Which means you actually limit based on spend of supported services? (I think?)

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by philsnow »

StratusBen wrote: post #17
raylad wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does it handle credentials? What's the potential for Vantage being hacked and the hackers gaining admin access to your users' AWS accounts?

The provided CloudFormation stack creates a Cross Account IAM Role with a list of read only permissions. We don't accept access keys or secrets. - A permissions overview is here (most aren't used for now). This list was made from the AWS-managed IAM policy of "ReadOnlyAccess" but whittled down to remove things like our ability to read from S3 Buckets or Databases: https://docs.vantage.sh/permissions/ - The latest Clo…

I'm so refreshed to see this designed this way. I assumed that they would be asking for an API key or equivalent, because I don't know anything about the product team or the company and this bad behavior is so bog-standard.

I beg you to blog heavily about this approach, especially if you find success with it / it doesn't provide a very negative user experience. See if you can get featured on enterpriseready.io or something.

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by StratusBen »

aynsof wrote: post #30

Congratulations on the launch. This looks fantastic! AWS's release cadence is absolutely crazy - I can barely keep up with all the new releases. Are you planning on supporting all AWS services? If so, how are you planning on keeping up?

Thanks so much!

We are letting our users dictate what services we support. We can typically add support for a new AWS service in a few hours at best or ~2 days at worst.

The nice thing about Vantage is that its essentially a personalized console just for you - so even if we add support for a bunch of AWS services you'll have a console just for what services you're using.

Also at one point we hope to hire some more engineers to assist with development progress.

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by StratusBen »

trestenhortz wrote: post #29

How does this work? Do you have servers that connect to AWS using my credentials?

We wrote up a quick overview of how Vantage works here: https://docs.vantage.sh/connecting/

tl;dr: The Vantage application (hosted on AWS) interacts with your AWS account through something called a Cross Account IAM role that defaults to read only permissions.

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by chippiewill »

foreigner wrote: post #28

I've always wondered why AWS doesn't just open source their console. it's such a usability disaster and there's so many developers that would love to contribute improvements to it. Wouldn't that make financial sense to Amazon?

From Amazon's perspective being unable to easily see what resources you have in your account might be a feature, not a bug.

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by acnewyork »

Congratulations on the launch. The cost estimation feature is awesome - very useful for people like me who are not very good at cleaning up resources. Also like the cross-region view without having to switch console regions.

This looks promising - good luck!

Re: Show HN: Vantage – An alternative AWS console focused on developer experience

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Post by itisit »

chippiewill wrote: post #37
foreigner wrote: post #28

I've always wondered why AWS doesn't just open source their console. it's such a usability disaster and there's so many developers that would love to contribute improvements to it. Wouldn't that make financial sense to Amazon?

From Amazon's perspective being unable to easily see what resources you have in your account might be a feature, not a bug.

AWS Cost Explorer easily reveals all resources in an account:

https://aws.amazon.com/aws-cost-management/aws-cost-explorer...

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