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Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by everyone »

We use Discord, and have 2 channels for each game we're workin' on. 'Updates' and 'Chat'

Announcements you want everyone to see go in 'Updates' So if you finished a feature or are starting work on a feature, or have a doc to show everyone... ... Everyone working on that project will have notifications turned on for the projects 'Updates' channel and will read everything on it.

All general chat about the project and also responding to and chatting about stuff in 'Updates' channel happens in chat channel.

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by omosubi »

LinuxBender wrote: post #18
omosubi wrote: post #9

use JIRA as an internal stackoverflow :D

In fact Atlassian have a module for this that plugs into Confluence which looks and feels a lot like SO. Trying to find the module name. It might just be called "Questions". I think this is the one we use [1] [1] - https://marketplace.atlassian.com/apps/1217080/questions-ans...

that'll only work if the module name also makes confluence search usable

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by kbrwn »

Chat will become the primary method of communication and will be where most work gets done. Other systems will exist sure eventually hackers will build tools for them to be interfaced with via chat clients. This has been happening for many years. Old people need to get over it and stop writing blog posts that basically sound like anti-email rants from 1998.

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by LinuxBender »

omosubi wrote: post #22
LinuxBender wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact Atlassian have a module for this that plugs into Confluence which looks and feels a lot like SO. Trying to find the module name. It might just be called "Questions". I think this is the one we use [1] [1] - https://marketplace.atlassian.com/apps/1217080/questions-ans...

that'll only work if the module name also makes confluence search usable

Yes, their search leaves a lot of room for improvement. I am only suggesting it for the folks that are already using it.

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by legerdemain »

The problem with "trying it with my team for one sprint" is that I now need to have a long conversation with legal. How will the service provider handle the content (discussions, screenshots, code snippets) that my team will upload? Do our current customer contracts contain any clauses that complicate the use of external discussion sites? In the unlikely event that the service offers the option to host it locally -- who is going to deploy it, configure it, set up security and authn/authz around it?

The real answer is: just fucking use email. Why is email not one of the options suggested in the TFA? It's universally available, durable, allows long-form conversation and thoughtful deliberation, doesn't tell you that "someone is typing," and offers you the luxury of checking it at a set interval only a few times per day.

The way many organizations have collectively abandoned email in favor of instant messaging is a travesty.

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by svnpenn »

whalesalad wrote: post #14
getitstraight wrote: post #13

Better yet, stop using shitware like Slack, Matrix, etc, where all the data is kept locked behind closed doors ("in the cloud") and you can only access it through a 500 MB bloated shitware app that drags your 8 core workstation to a crawl. IRC sucks, but it sure beats the alternative. AIM or other Pidgin-based alternatives wouldn't be too bad either, if you had your own private server with everything logged. Edit, be…

this is completely tangential to the content of the post

There's no such thing as "completely tangential". Something is either tangential, or it's not.

Perhaps you should read a dictionary before your next attempt at "forum police".

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by emidln »

legerdemain wrote: post #25

The problem with "trying it with my team for one sprint" is that I now need to have a long conversation with legal. How will the service provider handle the content (discussions, screenshots, code snippets) that my team will upload? Do our current customer contracts contain any clauses that complicate the use of external discussion sites? In the unlikely event that the service offers the option to host it locally --…

Many organizations seem to use Outlook/Exchange and configure Exchange to make it difficult to use other mail clients (not enabling imap, not enabling caldav support so that a separate calendar and email client need to be used unless you use exchange, etc). Outlook is truly awful as a mail client and it would make one want to use anything else.

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by the_arun »

Footkerchief wrote: post #17

Slack has fantastic search. It has good filtering, sorting, and pagination, and has the right degree of fuzziness. I use it on a daily basis to discover the reasoning for things that happened before my time. I've never known anyone else who does this, and I've never understood why.

Well, Slack search experience could be done better. I prefer to see search results and selected thread with search keyword in the same view. It is annoying to keep going to every thread in the results and going to search bar again if that is not I was looking for.

Re: If it will matter after today, don't talk about it in a chat room

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Post by dumbfounder »

legerdemain wrote: post #25

The problem with "trying it with my team for one sprint" is that I now need to have a long conversation with legal. How will the service provider handle the content (discussions, screenshots, code snippets) that my team will upload? Do our current customer contracts contain any clauses that complicate the use of external discussion sites? In the unlikely event that the service offers the option to host it locally --…

Those emails are only available to the users participating in them, and in some places are automatically deleted after a certain amount of time. The point of TFA is knowledge capture, and email isn't transparent enough for sharing knowledge.
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