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Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by toxik »

Grustaf wrote: post #251
srean wrote: post #218

There are some comments here that note that sci-hub or Aaron's action on JSTOR data is/was illegal. Just leaving this thought out here -- if laws are considered unjust, it is ok, even noble, to break them. That is how one got rid of apartheid, how colonies became independent and LGBT marriages came to be legally recognized. If not for lawbreakers we would still be living in a world that approves of Turing's treatment…

That’s possibly true. It doesn’t follow that all illegal activity is just though.

How fortunate that this was never claimed.

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Post by aj7 »

Why is there so much babbling about Reddit here? It’s mainly a porn-sharing site, having taken advantage of the demise of that function at Tumblr. I can’t think of a single topic where the Reddit forum is not done better, much better, somewhere else. Am I wrong? Illuminate me. I’m looking for a USE for Reddit.

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Post by mellavora »

vinckr wrote: post #225
srean wrote: post #218

There are some comments here that note that sci-hub or Aaron's action on JSTOR data is/was illegal. Just leaving this thought out here -- if laws are considered unjust, it is ok, even noble, to break them. That is how one got rid of apartheid, how colonies became independent and LGBT marriages came to be legally recognized. If not for lawbreakers we would still be living in a world that approves of Turing's treatment…

Restricting access to scientific material just to make money is holding us all back and I wouldn't consider people who leak such material criminals.

Correction: restricting public access to scientific material paid for by public funds...

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Post by NoSorryCannot »

Bakary wrote: post #150
NoSorryCannot wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit seems pretty unprincipled in general. Their decisions wouldn't be so bad if they appeared to stem from a coherent principle but overall they seem to only be reacting and doing whatever is politically expedient in the moment. Not unlike most orgs I suppose.

Sounds like a principle to me. edit: to make this answer less of a throwaway line: it's a principle that underpins most of the MMR-based ideology on this very same website and animates most of the tech scene in general, "making the world a better place" statements notwithstanding. How many of you here can genuinely pretend otherwise in your professional life? A portion perhaps, but clearly the minority. Beyond the si…

I view a principle as being a belief held that one will hold the line on, even if to do so would be potentially costly. A principle isn't necessarily popular or just.

Optimizing for traffic, revenue, or whatever else is certainly a strategy but I don't think it's a principle in the sense of someone or some people having principles.

And I would add that the effective output of such a strategy, if it were the behavior of an individual, would probably be described as sociopathic.

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Post by bluesign »

srean wrote: post #218

There are some comments here that note that sci-hub or Aaron's action on JSTOR data is/was illegal. Just leaving this thought out here -- if laws are considered unjust, it is ok, even noble, to break them. That is how one got rid of apartheid, how colonies became independent and LGBT marriages came to be legally recognized. If not for lawbreakers we would still be living in a world that approves of Turing's treatment…

I agree that "if laws are considered unjust, it is ok, even noble, to break them." But it is kind of dangerous position at the same time. I am sure, people who stormed the capital are sincerely believe that situation was "Unjust" for them.

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Post by leephillips »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #240

This article (really it's more of a press release from the interested parties) seems to confuse the role of DNS from the role of certificate authority, making it hard for me to understand what they're talking about. These days sometimes the same entities provide both SSL certificates and DNS, but they are different services. > Handshake is “is effectively a decentralized domain name server,” Roquerre said. Instead of…

I agree. I found the article pretty incoherent, and gave up after a few paragraphs.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by dang »

toxik wrote: post #261
Grustaf wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s possibly true. It doesn’t follow that all illegal activity is just though.

How fortunate that this was never claimed.

Please follow the site guidelines when posting here. They include:

"Don't be snarky."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by walrus01 »

troquerre wrote: post #258
walrus01 wrote: post #21

People have been trying to make alternative DNS name systems and alternative root nameservers a thing for 20+ years now. Has never caught on. On the other hand I 100% endorse sci-hub having a presence as a tor service.

Handshake has a number of mechanics built into it that I think give it a stronger chance of succeeding than previous attempts. It's similar to how there were numerous failed digital currency attempts before Bitcoin figured out all the mechanics necessary for success. Some of these mechanics are: - There is no centralized party that owns Handshake. This allows for any party to step in and contribute to the protocol. W…

> - TLDs aren't sold for a set price. There's a vickrey auction which awards the TLD to the highest bidder. This creates a better distribution of names than selling at a set price or to the first buyer

for real money, USD or EUR or such? where does this money go? or do you have to first mine some cryptocoin, or buy it with real money, and it then goes to the entity 'namebase'?

scroll down here to the 'how it works': https://www.namebase.io/

this quite honestly looks really sketchy to me. I'd much rather take my chances with registering a domain name among the myriad of ICANN root nameserver gTLDs and ccTLDs than buy some weird, obscure cryptocoin, which can then be used to buy 'domain names' that only 0.000001% of the client devices presently operating on the planet can successfully resolve into IPs.

https://learn.namebase.io/starting-from-zero/buy-hns

all of this just looks like somebody has grafted 'blockchain' and 'crypto coins' onto the same alternative root DNS ideas that failed twenty years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root

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Post by Hizonner »

nickodell wrote: post #255
troquerre wrote: post #248

CEO of Namebase here. We posted the original tweet announcing the news[1]. If any of y'all have questions about how sci-hub.hns works or how Handshake works in general I'll be online today to chat! [1] https://twitter.com/NamebaseHQ/status/1348707701744922625?s=...

How does your service differ from NameCoin?

It's more profiteering-oriented.
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