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Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by C4stor »

BelenusMordred wrote: post #45
C4stor wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the average Joe really reads articles from sci-hub ? The target public of sci-hub should be able to understand how to install a couple programs imo. Windows 7 has reached EOL a year ago (minus two days), so yeah, maybe it's not very well supported...

> Does the average Joe really reads articles from sci-hub ? What a ridiculous statement, do you truly want to live in a world where they can't? Most authors on sci-hub themselves would struggle with containers. If a mechanic mocked a room full of people for not being able to change their own oil what would you think of them? Please reconsider such an ideological stance.

Well, no, but they actually can, so it's not the question.

I doubt that most people able to read and publish complex scientitic papers would "struggle" to follow what is overall a one page sequence of instructions to enter in a computer. You don't need to understand containers to run docker.

I don't really get the analogy with the mechanic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by cleansy »

meragrin_ wrote: post #128
cleansy wrote: post #119

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Reddit’s founders seem to be pretty spineless for doing so. I didn’t even realise that they removed him..

I don't believe the Reddit founders ever considered him a founder. Tweet from 2011: https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/93374221685755904

> For Paul Graham, cofounder of Y Combination who worked with Swartz, Huffman and Ohanian, Aaron Swartz is right to call himself a Reddit founder.

> Speaking on Reddit a few years ago, Graham said: “The company behind Reddit was a merger of two startups…and in that situation the founders of both startups are considered founders of the combined company.” [1]

sounds pretty clear to me..

1: https://www.thefocus.news/tech/aaron-swartz-reddit/

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Post by generalizations »

input_sh wrote: post #169
walrus01 wrote: post #21

People have been trying to make alternative DNS name systems and alternative root nameservers a thing for 20+ years now. Has never caught on. On the other hand I 100% endorse sci-hub having a presence as a tor service.

IMO not enough "useful" content is not reachable via "normal" DNS for anyone to care about the alternative DNS systems. Sure, sites like TPB and Sci-Hub need to switch to a different domain from time to time bringing some annoyance to their users, but that's about it. Only if all domain registrars at once started actively removing "shady" domains would an alternative DNS ever come to spotlight.

Seems like sci-hub might be the tipping point for useful content on alternative DNS.

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Post by no-s »

fjabre wrote: post #190
no-s wrote: post #70

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>>Hopefully with Dems in control we will see these companies punished for their bad behavior. Or at least laws passed that make the publication of research more open. "Yeah, meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." You write like someone who's never heard of "regulatory capture."

You write like someone who's a cynic.

>>You write like someone who's a cynic.

Guilty but history is on my side.

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Post by jcytong »

sudobash1 wrote: post #58
oefrha wrote: post #5

> “The DNS is like a phonebook for the internet. The addresses in the phonebook are the server IP addresses. DNS was created to give IP addresses human-readable names so with our platform, you’re finding the IP address through Handshake, not through a certificate authority ,” Namebase CEO Tieshun Roquerre told CoinDesk. (Emphasis mine.) Did this Namebase CEO just state on record that he doesn’t know how DNS works?

> The DNS is like a phonebook for the internet We are going to have to come up with a new metaphor soon. I haven't seen a phonebook in ages. Honestly I would be more likely to tell my kid "Phonebooks were like DNS for telephone numbers."

> "Phonebooks were like DNS for telephone numbers."

A floppy was like the save icon on old software. :)

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Post by vmception »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #173
egroq wrote: post #162

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> Aaron Swartz was a martyr, and I don't mean to disparage him or his legacy. Who killed him? According to wikipedia it was suicide. Did he have a mental issue?

He was under threat of prosecution from the FBI.

US prisons are so full because people do the time.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

Instead of using this complicated custom thing, you could do something simpler.

Serve an initial website on a regular domain. The website only displays a standard hosts file. Copy and paste it into your local system's hosts file. Now browse to the site listed in the hosts file.

You can change the domains used in the hosts file at any time, and get real certs for those domains so you can use TLS. If the public browses to the IPs in the hosts file, they'll get nothing. But someone with the hosts file can see the actual site's content.

This avoids domain takedowns, and allows changing IPs and domain names.

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Post by andromeduck »

alienlid wrote: post #17
llcoolv wrote: post #6

It is worth noting that this is exactly what Aaron Swartz was bullied to his tragic death 8 years and a day ago. May he rest in peace. And kudos to Alexandra. P.S. Corrected the date, seems like I still live in 2020. Thank you, lazyant.

Tweet thread on his death that was illuminating for me https://mobile.twitter.com/hides_minimally/status/1348704670...

It's a bit weird to blame capitalism when it was the state and not the actual IP holders that wanted to press charges.

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Post by the_af »

bonoboTP wrote: post #151
jquery wrote: post #80

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I wonder if the author of xkcd is ever going to apologize for his comic on free speech.

Why would he? I think he's even more convinced of it today. "Free speech" is a pretty right-wing issue nowadays and people assume it's a dog whistle for hate speech. If you want to be a progressive leftist like Randall Munroe, you can't advocate for free speech without hurting your reputation in the current environment.

If this [1] is the xkcd strip we're talking about, and don't see how Randall Munroe isn't advocating for free speech, nor how it is a left vs right issue. He's simply saying "free speech means the government cannot arrest you for what you say", nothing more, nothing less. He furthermore argues that the right to free speech doesn't mean everyone else can't criticize you, have your shows/books/whatever canceled, shout you down, etc. He says "[free speech] doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences".

Now, you may or may not agree with his position (I certainly don't agree with some key aspects of it) but Randall is explaining what free speech is, not arguing for censorship.

The alt text is pretty thought provoking, too.

[1] https://xkcd.com/1357/

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Post by ehsankia »

cleansy wrote: post #202
meragrin_ wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe the Reddit founders ever considered him a founder. Tweet from 2011: https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/93374221685755904

> For Paul Graham, cofounder of Y Combination who worked with Swartz, Huffman and Ohanian, Aaron Swartz is right to call himself a Reddit founder. > Speaking on Reddit a few years ago, Graham said: “The company behind Reddit was a merger of two startups…and in that situation the founders of both startups are considered founders of the combined company.” [1] sounds pretty clear to me.. 1: https://www.thefocus.news/tec…

This may be unfair as Aaron isn't there to give his side of the story, but the way I understand is that the YC put these 1+2 people (who were all talented) together to help build reddit, but Huffman and Ohanian were far more interested in building reddit as it was originally their project and they had been working on it for 6 months, and it seems like Aaron wasn't as interested in it.

So yes, while Graham did forcingly merge these two together, I don't think it necessarily makes Aaron a co-founder and contributor.

EDIT: Just to add, Aaron's project was "infogami" which seems to be a CMS system, and I'm not sure how much of that actually contributed to reddit. It seems like his project was mostly scratched and the project that Huffman & Ohanian were working on ended up being the real success.

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