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Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

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Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#41

Is this an attempt to prop up Boeing from collapse? Really lame solution if so.

Boeing will never be allowed to collapse as it's the US's only competitor to Airbus and a major defense contractor.

Ditto for Airbus.

One of the risks of consolidation.

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tax is a countermeasure for the loopholes tech companies use to avoid paying tax here.

I suggest fixing the loopholes.

Easier said than done.

Either by intentional design or by lack of resources, both EU and US govs have a hard time winning this game of whack-a-mole when these megacorps have armies of top lawyers and consultants who's sole focus is finding legal ways to avoid paying taxes.

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#44
post #31

Hopefully US and EU relations will improve in the coming years. Performing these type of actions between such close allies is just mind boggling.

I don't think this really signifies a meaningful deterioration - this has been happening forever. Its diplomacy by trade policy. The EU does the same to us, we do the same to Canada, Canada does the same to us. Usually the penalized industries are just propped up with subsidies in the targeted country anyway. If anything, trade wars were more vicious a century ago than they are now.

In most of these nations, the measures have strong support. You can't expect a Canadian farmer or French wine maker to put the concerns of Americans above their own economic interests. I highly doubt homegrown EU-tech companies were at all bothered by recent measures against US tech giants.

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#45
post #18

If this is similar to the old tariffs, it affects only new aircraft. Some airlines were already buying Airbus planes from Europe and flying them in South America long enough for the planes to be considered "old" so that they may be excluded from the tariffs.

You have to admire the out-of-the-box and absurdity of that solution. Someone actually sat in an office and realized he could save money by letting aircrafts decay in South America before using them.

Laws create absurd situations.

In Canada, it was cheaper for pizza companies to buy cheese with pepperoni from the US than buy cheese here.

https://www.betterfarming.com/online-news/feds-close-pizza-c...

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#46
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all due to digital taxing companies like Apple, Google, Amazon. France put in a 3% tax on digital services, some other countries did it as well. The EU as a whole plans to do a 3% tax on all digital services in 2021. The US is angry about it, since all the major tech companies happen to be american.

>The US is angry about it, since all the major tech companies happen to be american. And chineese. This new Whatsapp thingy would have been another disaster in Europe if we were not protected by the RGPD.

Whatsapp is owned by Facebook though?

I'd still get off of it and have been recommending Signal or Telegram to anyone that listens.

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#48
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"Among the goods to see an impact from the widened net of additional duty are European made wines, which will attract a 25% duty, and French and German-made aircraft parts, attracting a 15% tax." As a French person, I can't help but feel like there's some sort of personal attack happening there. Wine and airplanes? Hey, I think you guys forgot to tax cheese and sarcasm while you're at it! Let's hope that a new US adm…

That's fine. With the tariffs China has slapped on American (93%) and Australian (200% !) wine Europeans have what is now the largest international market (and growing) all to themselves.

In fact the US have tried to prop up (and placate) their wine producers since that because the Chinese market completely dried up for them. So I see these tariffs on European wine as killing two birds with one stone for the US government but not necessarily hitting European producers that hard (as said, at this point Chinese will buy as much wine as Europeans are able to sell them...)

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

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Certain European wines under 14% ABV, whiskies, cheeses and other agriculture products have been levied a 25% import tax by the USTR since October 18, 2019.[1][2]

[1] https://time.com/5704663/trump-tariffs-whiskey-wine-cheese-e...

[2] https://www.decanter.com/wine-news/us-eu-wine-tariffs-100-pe...

Re: Airbus hit as new US tariffs come into force

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boeing will never be allowed to collapse as it's the US's only competitor to Airbus and a major defense contractor.

Should just nationalize it then. Otherwise propping up a company like that is anti-freemarket.

Freemarkets exist in fairytales.
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