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Post by xkqd »

varjag wrote: post #406
smokey_circles wrote: post #401

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> Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. As someone who lives in a low cost country: rubbish. There's a reason we're a lower cost. 1. We have a lower standard of education 2. We have a higher cost of technology (relative to average income) 3. We have a lower need for the luxury market where most technology resides You can also look at the proportion of field leaders. Are more from the developed…

> You can also look at the proportion of field leaders. Are more from the developed nations or the developing ones? Lower cost of living does not imply developing nation. Czhech Republic or Poland or Taiwan are developed nations, all with the cost of living a fraction of Bay Area. I see Ubiquiti dev center apparently moved to Latvia. You can argue it's a depressed region of the EU but it is not a developing country b…

I’ve spent a lot of time in Czech and Poland, and while someone could argue they’re developed countries when looking at the wider gamut, it doesn’t compare well Canada, USA, UK, etc engineering talent.

A lot of the engineering talent you find there is extremely limited in quantity, but it is untapped.

Overall I think it’s a step in the right direction as compared to other countries we’ve outsourced work to, but let’s not pretend Poland is an exemplary ray of developed industry and society.

Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach

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Post by bonestamp2 »

ywei3410 wrote: post #293
bonestamp2 wrote: post #234

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Not sure if you found a good one, this one has never failed me: http://amzn.com/B00425S1H8 With a male/male extension: http://amzn.com/B00QM8ZP5E

Will take a look at it! My current one I've nicknamed a "Pirate" R232 adapter because it has an unfortunate and hilarious effect of duplicate the lowercase 'r' character for some reason (so I see Arrrrrrrrchlinux). I mostly administer via SSH so it's all good at the moment.

That's hilarious.

Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach

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Post by ex_ubiquiti »

degif wrote: post #377
ex_ubiquiti wrote: post #35

As a former Ubiquiti employee, I'm sad to watch the slow decline of the company. There was a steady exodus of engineering talent through 2020. The CEO was focused on moving to countries where engineering was cheaper and employees complained less about constant crunch mode. If you search around, you can find interviews where he brags about closing the San Jose office because he thought everyone there was too entitled.…

I'm a developer from one of the cheaper engineering countries to where Ubiquiti has moved to. I'm not sure what are you implying with your comment and I hope it's not "the company is declining because the company moved talent to countries where developers are cheaper". I do personally have friends working there and they are top class developers. Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. That said I…

Some of the best engineers I worked with were in non-US offices. They were also smart enough to leave.

You cut my quote short of the important part which was "and employees complained less about constant crunch mode". It is easier to "trap" engineers in countries where average salaries are lower by offering them 20% over market rate and then threatening to fire them if they don't work constant crunch hours. We were promised very large bonuses that never arrived.

> That said I don't hear the best about the company (long working hours, not the highest pay)

It is a sad situation. The pay was very good and the working hours were reasonable when I started, but that changed for the worse. That is why all of my peers left the company.

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

xkqd wrote: post #451
varjag wrote: post #406

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> You can also look at the proportion of field leaders. Are more from the developed nations or the developing ones? Lower cost of living does not imply developing nation. Czhech Republic or Poland or Taiwan are developed nations, all with the cost of living a fraction of Bay Area. I see Ubiquiti dev center apparently moved to Latvia. You can argue it's a depressed region of the EU but it is not a developing country b…

I’ve spent a lot of time in Czech and Poland, and while someone could argue they’re developed countries when looking at the wider gamut, it doesn’t compare well Canada, USA, UK, etc engineering talent. A lot of the engineering talent you find there is extremely limited in quantity, but it is untapped. Overall I think it’s a step in the right direction as compared to other countries we’ve outsourced work to, but let’s…

Well, if you look at teh rsults of the CS Olympiads, you will see Poland as teh 5th overall (http://stats.ioinformatics.org/countries/?sort=medals_desc)

Having worked (as a French) with dev teams over there, I can assure you they have a whole bunch of A+ devs and the market is very competitive.

Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach

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Post by ex_ubiquiti »

Jestar342 wrote: post #428
degif wrote: post #377

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I'm a developer from one of the cheaper engineering countries to where Ubiquiti has moved to. I'm not sure what are you implying with your comment and I hope it's not "the company is declining because the company moved talent to countries where developers are cheaper". I do personally have friends working there and they are top class developers. Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. That said I…

You simply cannot ignore the wider context here. The new leadership is moving development to cheaper regions and, if the interviews and comments about "entitlement" etc are to be believed, you can bet they are not fussed about hiring the best talent in the new regions - they are going to be hunting out the "good enough" agencies and/or employees, which is most definitely going to reduce quality. I'd like to also add…

Yes! The move to low cost countries is confusing because the company has more than enough profits to pay high wages. I think the company wanted offices in cheaper countries because it was easier to convince the employees to accept the abuse because they had fewer options for employers who could pay well.

In the US, good engineers don't have to tolerate abusive companies in exchange for good wages. Not all countries are so fortunate.

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

grahamburger wrote: post #339
twblalock wrote: post #200

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I bought a Unifi Dream Machine last year because it was an all-in-one device that seemed like the simplest way to have multiple VLANs on my home network, in order to segregate my IoT devices and security system from the rest of my home network. At the time, I didn't see any similar products. Are there any other "prosumer"-type devices on the market that could replace a Dream Machine? If Unifi is going downhill it doe…

I would go with MikroTik. Or just one if the cheaper Ubiquiti devices, like the EdgeRouter series.

It probably depends on the environment one is in.

I replaced my ISP-provided all-in-one box (Orange in France) with an EdgeRouter 4 and it is many, many times more stable. The crap you get from the ISP does not compare.

The management is horrible and how they designed it is horrible as well (from the OS perspective) but once it works, it works.

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Post by ex_ubiquiti »

rossjudson wrote: post #153
ex_ubiquiti wrote: post #44

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Ubiquiti had a steady exodus of engineers in the past few years. It's a very different company now compared to the glory days of UniFi.

Doesn't it seem like one of the missing measurements for directors/VPs should be "amount of disappearing expertise"?

The directors and VPs quit, also.

Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

r9 wrote: post #368
asciident wrote: post #334

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Strange, I found the Unifi Controller web UI to be really poorly architected. 1) You start a .app that sits for a few seconds then requires you to launch the browser by clicking a button. While using the browser, you can't close the extra window for the controller. 2) On the browser, you go to a localhost website that has an invalid TLS certificate (you can a "Not Secure" warning) and have to click through to the uns…

How does one have a valid TLS cert on a piece of software that uses a "localhost website"?

You can reverse-proxy the traffic into the Ubiquity app, and have your RP terminating the TLS connection. This is what I do and I get a correct HTTPS connection to the web site.

Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach

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Post by colordrops »

gU9x3u8XmQNG wrote: post #378
colordrops wrote: post #336

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You need to read my comment again. The clients are behind either a bridged AP or a switch, i.e. all on the same subnet, all getting their DHCP addresses from the UDM-Pro, all in the UDM-Pro's ARP table. There is NO double NAT happening here. Furthermore I didn't say they were invincible. I just said they were invisible to the UDM-Pro's UI. Unless you have a blanket ban on outgoing LAN traffic, which would be absurd,…

I never said you were using double nat, but noted it as an example in which you may have these issues. > Unless you have a blanket ban on outgoing LAN traffic, which would be absurd, there's no way to block access for a particular client or a particular destination address for that client. To the contrary; this is exactly what you should be doing. Isolated subnet for these untrusted devices. Block by default. (Whitel…

It's not just compatibility features. They are missing features that low end consumer grade hardware have, and I'll say what I was implying: It's because it's a vendor lock-in strategy, and they want you to replace ALL your equipment with theirs. Explain to me why I shouldn't be able to manage a list of DHCP clients in a piece of "enterprise grade" hardware.

Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach

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Post by linsomniac »

Johnny555 wrote: post #222
linsomniac wrote: post #214

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I guess I could have pointed it out more clearly: I'm going "used enterprise" as the route for replacement. As you say, yes, this switch was $2500 new (that's what I saw when I looked), but I bought one for under $100 on ebay. Similarly for the Ruckus R610 AP I mentioned: Those APs were a grand new, but you can get them for a bit over $100 on ebay. Linus Tech Tips did a comparison of it with other consumer units, doi…

That is a good price for the hardware, but what about the firmware? Do Aruba and Ruckus give free firmware updates? Have you looked at the power consumption of the switch? I've run some enterprise gear at home in the past (my favorite was the E-450 Sun server which an ex-employer gave me for free), but when I started paying for my own power, I found that even if the hardware is free, the power consumption makes it ex…

You do have to sign up with an account at HP to get the firmware, and it won't let you use a gmail account, but once I signed up I was able to download the latest firmware and update to the latest. Just FYI.
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