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Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

#31

Anyone know how to get their elderly parents to switch? Whatsapp has us cornered and they know it.

I had a video call with them via WhatsApp, and guided them through the whole process on Dad's phone. After some hickups they were able to setup Signal on both of the devices.

Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

#32

Can someone explain to me what use case I'm missing? Why do people care about old messages? Personally I just read incoming message and never "scroll back".

Messages are like email. I never delete them. Situations arrive where I have to go look into past messages to see what conversations I had around several dates.

Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

#35

What went wrong with XMPP and federated servers?

XMPP never got its story together for mobile clients. Sure there are some configurations of XEPs that will eventually allow you a reasonable configuration that supports multi device, history, media, etc, but for whatever reason, gluing those pieces together into something sane has evaded our community.

Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

#36

What went wrong with XMPP and federated servers?

The UX.

And encryption, which is an addon and not the default.

Also, XMPP is a good example of a 'victim' of embrace, extend, extinguish. I remember Facebook messenger, hyves chat, Google talk and briefly even WhatsApp, all in my desktop chat app. They all 'did' XMPP, but then removed federation, features or killed it entirely.

Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

#37
post #17

Fascinating and it sounds doable to me. However, not to my mother in law and most other people I know, which is the group that would require a method like this, but then it should be much easier.

I see this here as a 'first step'. The second step either upstream integrating it, or it becoming an own app on the appstores.

Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is why I use Telegram, for them UX matters. Yes MTProto is not audited blah blah. I use IRC too and that has exactly butkus for encryption :D

Thats true, Telegram has very good UX. But bullshit crypto with a closed server etc. :-(

Indeed: signal proves that good UX and good security can coexist.

Telegram proves that to have even better UX, you need to sacrifice security (and privacy).

Re: Signal Fork with WhatsApp Migration

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post #13

Anyone know how to get their elderly parents to switch? Whatsapp has us cornered and they know it.

I sent the link to my elderly parents. They both installed it on their Android without a problem. Then I received a video call from my mum - she'd installed the desktop app by herself. So, get better parents?

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