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Ubiquiti Networks Breach
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#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You can also look at the proportion of field leaders. Are more from the developed nations or the developing ones? Lower cost of living does not imply developing nation. Czhech Republic or Poland or Taiwan are developed nations, all with the cost of living a fraction of Bay Area. I see Ubiquiti dev center apparently moved to Latvia. You can argue it's a depressed region of the EU but it is not a developing country b…
I guess in reality the opposite can be said. In 'poorer' countries actually more folks want to work in IT or software. Hence a possible perception of a bit worse talent.
But I wouldn't think of the Baltics as such a place?
Instead, just hanging over the code and infra to new people, is risky in itself and can easily make security problems happen?
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#423Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of a restaurant in Goa, India, which proudly advertises: "Vegetables are cleaned with clean water before use!"
In India and many other less developed countries, proper culinary hygiene is very far from universal, and contaminated water is common. It's less absurd of a statement than it would be in the US.
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#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s wrong with Sonos? I’m about to drop a bunch on a full home setup, should I consider an alternative?
Ironically, Sonos wreaks absolute havoc on my Unifi network when I hardwire the Sonos speakers (I have 12). When I remove the ethernet cables, it comes so unreliable, it frequently loses connectivity while playing music or speakers straight up disappear. I do have over 100 devices on the Dream machine + 4 AP-HDs network, but Unifi promised to make my network rock solid, and it's been anything but.
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#425Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. As someone who lives in a low cost country: rubbish. There's a reason we're a lower cost. 1. We have a lower standard of education 2. We have a higher cost of technology (relative to average income) 3. We have a lower need for the luxury market where most technology resides You can also look at the proportion of field leaders. Are more from the developed…
If living costs does equal quality code, most quality logically must be from Scandinavia. If that is fact or not I won't try to judge.
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#426As a former Ubiquiti employee, I'm sad to watch the slow decline of the company. There was a steady exodus of engineering talent through 2020. The CEO was focused on moving to countries where engineering was cheaper and employees complained less about constant crunch mode. If you search around, you can find interviews where he brags about closing the San Jose office because he thought everyone there was too entitled.…
I'm a developer from one of the cheaper engineering countries to where Ubiquiti has moved to. I'm not sure what are you implying with your comment and I hope it's not "the company is declining because the company moved talent to countries where developers are cheaper". I do personally have friends working there and they are top class developers. Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. That said I…
Bottom-of-the-barrel developers bring even greater savings, and paying peanuts has always been a great way to get monkeys.
Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach
#427As a former Ubiquiti employee, I'm sad to watch the slow decline of the company. There was a steady exodus of engineering talent through 2020. The CEO was focused on moving to countries where engineering was cheaper and employees complained less about constant crunch mode. If you search around, you can find interviews where he brags about closing the San Jose office because he thought everyone there was too entitled.…
I once worked for a company, there were some "grievances" between the programmers and CEO (nothing major) but enough to elicited a "meeting" between all the devs and the CEO to "smooth" things over and build a better path forward, we will all in high spirits for the meeting and optimistic.
The very FIRST opening line from the CEO in the meeting was:
"How extremely lucky we(programmers) are to be working there..."
It all kinda just went downhill from there... 6 Months most of the programmers quit.
Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach
#428As a former Ubiquiti employee, I'm sad to watch the slow decline of the company. There was a steady exodus of engineering talent through 2020. The CEO was focused on moving to countries where engineering was cheaper and employees complained less about constant crunch mode. If you search around, you can find interviews where he brags about closing the San Jose office because he thought everyone there was too entitled.…
I'm a developer from one of the cheaper engineering countries to where Ubiquiti has moved to. I'm not sure what are you implying with your comment and I hope it's not "the company is declining because the company moved talent to countries where developers are cheaper". I do personally have friends working there and they are top class developers. Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. That said I…
I'd like to also add that from my own perspective Ubiquiti gear and software is/was _exceptionally_ good. So converting to "just another network gear company" level of quality is going to have a much greater impact on my perception of the company compared to if this news of off-shoring came from say cisco.
Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach
#429As a former Ubiquiti employee, I'm sad to watch the slow decline of the company. There was a steady exodus of engineering talent through 2020. The CEO was focused on moving to countries where engineering was cheaper and employees complained less about constant crunch mode. If you search around, you can find interviews where he brags about closing the San Jose office because he thought everyone there was too entitled.…
I'm a developer from one of the cheaper engineering countries to where Ubiquiti has moved to. I'm not sure what are you implying with your comment and I hope it's not "the company is declining because the company moved talent to countries where developers are cheaper". I do personally have friends working there and they are top class developers. Living costs don't necessarily correlate with talent levels. That said I…
> I hope it's not "the company is declining because the company moved talent to countries where developers are cheaper"
We probably agree the cost of developers varies considerably in different locations.
Companies operating in markets where local developers are expensive (I work near London for example) sometimes decide to outsource development to locations where it is much cheaper (e.g. India).
What I have seen (admittedly just anecdotally, not carefully studied and subject to bias) is a correlation between companies that don't value high quality software development and companies that are happy to dump a substantial part of their development efforts on cheap developers overseas.
Such companies don't care about their existing team - developers who are expensive but have built the software and understand it, and are to some extent understanding the end customer (often filling gaps left by product managers in smaller organisations). They just see their development team as a huge cost that needs to be reduced. Or they have trouble hiring locally.
When the daily rate of developers overseas is substantially lower, the company also doesn't care about those developers. They will want to outsource the least creative and satisfying work to them. They want to just fire and forget: "here's the spec, go and build it". Lower productivity is less of an issue if the "resources" are cheap. I'm over simplifying and I'm sure some companies try to work more in equal partnership but you get the picture.
Also, the move to outsourcing is often done suddenly; it's more like wielding an axe than an organic growth or shift in development model. Companies don't tend to invest in overseas developers as individuals.
In my view it's not great for either set of developers, or for the customers of that company. Perhaps when done right it can be more beneficial and I hope things will improve overall.
Re: Ubiquiti Networks Breach
#430No specific comments to the breach... But, I couldn't help but chuckle at We Take Your Security Seriously™. Why does every company, after demonstrating a lack of security, like to say this exact line? I can just imagine the PR person hovering over the shoulder of whoever authored the post yelling "make sure you tell the victims of this breach that we care!"
HAHA ! Too True !
Reminds me of getting "punished" as a child...
Parent: "Now remember this will hurt me more than it will hurt you"
PS. No child were abused in the making of the above comment. My parents were/is excellent !