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Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by korla »

coldtea wrote: post #284
korla wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you suggesting it is not in a society's interest to limit hate speech against minorities? Because that is what is being discussed.

Parent is probably suggesting that: (a) what is "hate speech" is a vague term to be filled by whoever yields the power to define it (could be anything from talk against religion, to conservative worldviews, to class-war ideas, to racist beliefs, to complaints against politicians, and so on). (b) what is a minority can also be vague and politically determined as opposed through raw numbers, and the power of a minority…

Hate speech is when you promote violence or persecution in some other way against any of the groups you mentioned. I am not sure what point A has to do with what hate speech is.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by zimmern »

meekmockmook wrote: post #206
m1sta_ wrote: post #197

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Obvious conclusion since everything that isn't far-right is far-left. /s

I'm a Sanders supporter and as Left as it gets but there is serious denial about the past 6 months of coordinated violence in major city cores from militant groups that claimed to speak for me. We have a problem with Big Tech and sectarian violence in this country no matter which way you look at it.

Thanks for this, from a friend on the other side of the political spectrum.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by ciex »

londons_explore wrote: post #178

Network connections are getting faster... Peoples typing/reading speeds are not... One day it will be feasible for someone's phone to receive all messages sent by every other person on earth. They can then try to decode every message till they find one that their private key can decode. You've now made the perfect privacy messaging system - by sending all messages to all users, no quantity of network packet sniffing/…

I think this is exactly how scuttlebutt private messaging works.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by dang »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #183

I wish they excluded extremes on both sides of the spectrum. Otherwise, it makes Cabal seem like a Parler for the extreme left. (Maybe it is not; I know nothing about people behind Cabal.)

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25718992.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by dang »

torstenvl wrote: post #226
t0astbread wrote: post #220

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Without getting into JK Rowling, a site that has the technical means to but willfully ignores transphobia or homophobia certainly is not "cool".

It isn't transphobia to object to female erasure. Not every women's issue is also a trans women's issue, and it's sexist to insist otherwise.

Please stop taking HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for and we ban accounts that do it, regardless of what they're arguing.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the intended spirit when posting here, we'd be grateful.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by dang »

deVallete wrote: post #322
dr_kiszonka wrote: post #183

I wish they excluded extremes on both sides of the spectrum. Otherwise, it makes Cabal seem like a Parler for the extreme left. (Maybe it is not; I know nothing about people behind Cabal.)

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Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by wernercd »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #317
wernercd wrote: post #279

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My problem is with those who stand against "extremists" (ZOMG Those silly Nazi's) while supporting "extremists" (AntiFA/BLM groups responsible for dozens of riots, hundreds of millions in damage, many dead and federal buildings ransacked/burned, etc...)... Why is it hard to understand how hypocritical it is of most groups screaming about the DC riots when those same groups are tactly supportive of worse over longer p…

> My problem is with those who stand against "extremists" while supporting "extremists" It sounds like you see an equivalence between "rioting" and "rioting". I get what you're saying, but I'm also pretty sure that the people you're calling hypocrites have a more nuanced view than that and differentiate based on context and cause and don't consider "white supremacist Q-conspiracy-lie-believers rioting" (which this wa…

> more nuanced view ... based on context

What's nuanced about supporting violence/rioting/looting/etc while fighting violence being hypocritical? My main point remains "you were silent while 100's of millions in damage was done and now you're mad about 6 hours of less violent protests and a single building being damaged?"

> reasons aren't equal

Reasons aren't equal... but there is plenty of reason to pick apart the hypocrisy WAY beyond DC vs Portland riots. I can point out many "police brutality" stories that aren't really when facts come out. (IE: "hands up, don't shoot"). I can do the same to most of the 'non contradictory' positions.

It's important to stand up for what you believe in peacefully... it's also important to try and not be a hypocrite while doing so.

I stand against the hypocrisy in the other positions you mentioned as well even if not mentioned in detail. The hypocrisy destroys the message.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by timtas »

ALittleLight wrote: post #246
m1sta_ wrote: post #197

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Obvious conclusion since everything that isn't far-right is far-left. /s

One problem is that if you're not on the extremes, why do you need a new p2p chat app? If I have mainstream opinions then mainstream apps probably work just fine.

One say you might say something controversial which was mainstream the day before. Fast times we're living in.
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