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I’m the maintainer or a project that does some of that. It’s called Aether ( https://getaether.net ). User-customisable moderation and grassroots content delivery in particular, with less emphasis on total Tor-like anonymity, though we do still provide some.
Am I right in seeing that a monthly subscription is the only option to get a client and start using Aether?
I honestly do not understand this fetish with decentralization, do you really want a social network filled with child pornography, violence and other shady stuff? Because that's what's gonna happen guaranteed. People are just animals without rules
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By the same rationale, why do you need a "social network" at all? What is wrong with email?
Email is a protocol for using the internet to transmit messages. Part of what I find interesting/valuable/different about "social networks" is that the content is & remains online. Email does not have this capability. Email is an exchange.
Personally I'd just like to see _any_ kind of federated social network system that gets some market share. Kind of like how email is federated. Doesn't really matter to me the feature set. My thought is, if one could get to some kind of adoption, folks might see how much better things could be. You'd get to select your own "onramp" to the social network, follow people the same way you do on email (I'm following sfbla…
If you don't require a feature set, wouldn't the Internet or RSS feeds already qualify? What does it need to have on top of RSS feeds?
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> Personally it seems like vaporware to me, there's not much based on the lofty promises of a new OS/language/social network. > not much based on the lofty promises of a new OS/language/social network. You can literally set an urbit up and join a not-dead distributed social network right now, this second, in probably less than 3 minutes — it's explicitly not vaporware if people are using it to build thriving communit…
Where are you getting an Urbit ID in 3 minutes? I am not super familiar with Urbit. But my understanding is that even getting a temporary Urbit ID (a commet) takes hours.
You can try with these commands, using Mac in this example:
mkdir urbit
cd urbit
curl -JLO https://urbit.org/install/mac/latest
tar zxvf ./darwin.tgz --strip=1
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Where are you getting an Urbit ID in 3 minutes? I am not super familiar with Urbit. But my understanding is that even getting a temporary Urbit ID (a commet) takes hours.
I just booted with a new temporary ID and it took 50 seconds to generate the cryptographic key. After 3-4 minutes, Urbit had bootstrapped itself and was accessible over HTTP. You can try with these commands, using Mac in this example: mkdir urbit cd urbit curl -JLO https://urbit.org/install/mac/latest tar zxvf ./darwin.tgz --strip=1 ./urbit -c mycomet
I honestly do not understand this fetish with decentralization, do you really want a social network filled with child pornography, violence and other shady stuff? Because that's what's gonna happen guaranteed. People are just animals without rules
Decentralization + filters which are either trained by machine learning or appointed by the community that the forum serves (rather than the stockholders that the platform enriches) is what needs to replace Facebook, Parler, etc.
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> they are about propagating your thoughts ideas and knowledge to others. The emphasis of a social network is on "propagation" aka, propaganda. That is the issue with centralization: you have no control over your feed, no control over your data, no control over discussion on your content. On the other hand blogs/websites are all federated by design. You can control who views your content, shares your content. You con…
You missed my point, I'm saying that the reason for social networks being popular is because they allow various actors to submit others to their propaganda. The reason people prefer posting to facebook or twitter (or even medium) say compared to their own blog, isn't the challenges in setting up a personal blog. It's because on facebook and twitter they can push their post to a big audience, even if no one is searchi…
On a blog, there is always the possibility that a post would "go viral", but the odds of that happening (and the potential reach) seem dramatically lower than for something like Twitter and Facebook. Maybe, to borrow a possible-not-quite-applicable concept we've been hearing about from epidemiology, the R₀ for popular posts on blogs is intrinsically going to be much lower than that for popular posts on these kinds of social media?
After all, Twitter and Facebook (eventually) added a standardized means for reposting something without changing it, typically with a very rapid and easy user interface flow. There's probably never been anything as quick, easy, or standardized for reblogging, including because reblogging always has potential to remove or change the format, context, and content of what gets reblogged (and in the case of reblogging as a link, to require blog readers to follow the link in order to see the content, which could also be seen as reducing the blog's R₀-equivalent, since fewer people will follow a link than would read something in a feed that gets pre-rendered for them).
Thinking a new social network platform is destined to fail because it's a copy of something, but without the impetus that produced the original.It's the "make something people want," but more "make something they use for X." You need the original purpose. It has to be to make something that isn't itself. Myspace was mainly novelty and music, Facebook was for status minting from ivy colleges, other ones are for an exo…
Shameless plug: my social network is in alpha if anyone wants to offer feedback. https://trophy.gg
Where is my community of people I want to publish and subscribe with ?
Alike Twitter actually losing half of its userbase.
What do I share with whom, do I give out much private information, would I get stalked or banndd, is there moderation, how is gatekeeping done ?
All these points seem taken care of by federations like Mastodon and alike where everyone is free to chose and quit an instance if not adapted.
Even the Twitter split is showing only different platforms for different people endeavours work.
Now from an OSS point of view, Mastodon and alike are complicated to keep track of.