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Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

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Re: Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

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Post by formerly_proven »

mabbo wrote: post #5

> Under its provisions, social media services will not be allowed to remove content or block accounts if the content on them does not break Polish law. This is kind of insane. So if I offer a free website- a private company operating as I like- I would be forbidden from removing content from my own website that I don't like because the person who wrote it- again, not a paying customer- wants it to be there. Not only…

Like they sing in Poland, Jebać PiS.

Note that PiS is actually pronounced piss, which must be some kind of divine providence.

Re: Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

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Post by xyzzyz »

tokai wrote: post #11

"Under its provisions, social media services will not be allowed to remove content or block accounts if the content on them does not break Polish law." Sooo hop on a topic specific group. Get my off-topic posts removed. Being off-topic is not a crime in Poland. Get my shitposts reinstated. The bill better be more specific than the article is.

I presume that depends on who removes these posts. If the posts are removed by group owners or moderators who are not affiliated with the social media service itself, I think that should be totally fine according to that law. It's the social media service itself that's not allowed to do that.

Re: Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

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Post by scotty79 »

thebouv wrote: post #15
offby37years wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a distinction between website and the quoted "social media services".

Really? Define it then. Facebook is a website by all technical terms. Where is the hard defined line between social media services and a website? What is a website that hosts a forum? What is Discord? What if I run a WordPress website with the BuddyPress plugin? What about comments on my blog articles?

You could discriminate by just listing names of the platforms that this law is intended for or go by number of (polish?) users.

Re: Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

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Post by gedy »

offby37years wrote: post #2

As a country that has suffered the turmoil of both Nazism and Communism, it would be wise to heed their direction. They know the smell of tyranny all too well. The proverbial canary.

This is a valuable and reasonable opinion, and does not deserve the downvotes.

Re: Poland Justice Minister announces online freedom of speech bill

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Post by baq »

the-dude wrote: post #24
baq wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same Justice Minister wants to take away the right to refuse a ticket from the police, so don't be so quick in your judgment.

What does that even mean, refusing a ticket? If I refuse a ticket in NL, I will still get the fine-notice in the mail.

you can take the issue to court instead. if you're win, you pay nothing, if you're wrong, you pay the fine and court expenses - or whatever the court finds wrong at the same time. accepting the ticket means basically confessing that you're guilty. the idea is that policemen are wrong sometimes and refusing the ticket gives you an out; it keeps the police honest. with the new law you could in theory get a speeding ticket for walking and it'd be up to you to prove that you haven't done it.
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