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Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by scyzoryk_xyz »

I looked into the coverage in the Polish media and it looks like this headline is blowing it out of proportion.

Yes, we do have an agency here in Poland which, much as in many other first world countries, monitors consumer goods’ quality.

But all UOKiK did is signal that they are going to be looking into the matter. Not exactly an investigation - more of an inquiry. One made from complaints from dissatisfied customers.

If they were to find that the allegations are true, they would be entitled to taking 10%, but that is the maximum punishment and they would probably have to go to court to prove it all.

Other legal sources say this is would be an extreme sentence and that this almost never happens with UOKiK.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by ekianjo »

chundicus wrote: post #3

I hope this will encourage big studios to stop releasing broken games, but I doubt it will. The incentives are just so broken due to ease of patching, a need/desire for cash after a drawn out dev process, and a general disrespect for their customers. I think releasing a "broken" game in the form of "early access" from smaller studios can be good in terms of iterative and community development, but also that can be ab…

There is no need for action. The only thing people need to do is to stop preordering games.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by proc0 »

warpech wrote: post #2

It seems that everybody seems to hate this game, or rather unfinishedness of it. Meanwhile, I am playing it since 2 weeks on PS4 (not Pro) and totally enjoying every minute it.

I think game companies underestimate how much the game will be explored in detail even in the first week by the community, and mistakenly release incomplete content thinking it will be fixed without notice. I don't know but hopefully they patch and it keeps improving.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by ekianjo »

warpech wrote: post #2

It seems that everybody seems to hate this game, or rather unfinishedness of it. Meanwhile, I am playing it since 2 weeks on PS4 (not Pro) and totally enjoying every minute it.

Its fashionable right now to pile up hate on CDPR. Probably generates a lot of clicks.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by ojnabieoot »

warpech wrote: post #2

It seems that everybody seems to hate this game, or rather unfinishedness of it. Meanwhile, I am playing it since 2 weeks on PS4 (not Pro) and totally enjoying every minute it.

IMO the real issue is less that it’s unfinished and more that the product at its best doesn’t seem to live up to its lofty expectations (disclaimer: have not played it and don’t intend to until it goes on sale, just watched others and read a good number of reviews).

From what I understand it’s a fairly anodyne action-RPG, with routine quests, an underwhelming plot, and not too many interesting choices for character development - nothing bad, but nothing great. It doesn’t have the script of The Witcher III, the humor and satire isn’t as clever as Watch Dogs, it doesn’t break new action-RPG gameplay ground like Fallout 4, and as an open world city it’s a shallow clone of a GTA game. And it doesn’t contribute anything particularly unique itself - outside of all the hype, the consensus seems to be that it’s a fine choice if you’re looking for a solid action-RPG, but not essential. Which would be fine if the game were finished and appropriately hyped! But neither were the case.

People would be more forgiving of the bugs and even the unscrupulous marketing if the game was legitimately extraordinary and unlike anything else out there - the viral buggy footage would be offset by viral stories and videos of cool things in the game itself. But those cool things just aren’t there in Cyberpunk - it’s a B+ game, and doesn’t seem to have much to offer compared to its competitors.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by jjoonathan »

krzyk wrote: post #31
enahs-sf wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having played Cyberpunk on a PS4 and then a PS5, It is nowhere near what you'd expect from a AAA title in terms of quality. Had to stop playing it because it's not worth it to ruin the experience. I can only imagine what the folks at Rockstar are thinking about this launch and what they can take away from it.

And to have a counterpoint, I'm playing on PC and have a lot of fun. I've seen so far only one bug (Panams phone somehow freezed in mid air during her talking scene) I must say that I'm a bit glad that this time consoles were taken less seriously than a PC, in majority of cases is quite opposite (with a few exceptions like GTA V and CP2077).

My PC experience was good too. I saw the "T-pose on a motorcycle" bug a couple times and I sequence-broke a mission once, but that's it. If 2077 had been enterprise software, it would be the smoothest and least-buggy enterprise software I had ever used by a mile.

It sounds like last-gen consoles leaned very heavily on the LOD system, it caused more bugs than expected, and they didn't allocate enough time to fix them.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by evilturnip »

vlunkr wrote: post #36
evilturnip wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really the issue, also anecdotal. Clearly a large enough base complained for Sony to pull it from their Playstation store, and they've never done that before. The real issue is what was promised and teased and what was delivered. Honestly might border on false advertising. There are countless videos breaking down what was advertised in their promotional feature walkthrough videos and what was actually delivered (…

IMO The fact that they chose not to deliver review copies of the last-gen version until after the PC reviews were already in is the worst part of it. It seems pretty clear that they wanted to buy the game based on the PC reviews, when the last-gen version is clearly inferior.

Another pretty underhanded move. They definitely knew the console versions had major issues and didn't want reviewers to see it.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by ekianjo »

BoorishBears wrote: post #23
jayd16 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like everyone I talk to likes the game even if its not bug free and the combat isn't perfect.

The writing and depth were way too lacking for me. I can deal with bugs, but the lack of depth constantly breaks immersion, and some of the writing is just really cringeworthy

> e writing is just really cringeworthy

Which games writing is not cringeworthy please?

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by baq »

I fully expect 2077 to be a fantastic game sometime around winter or spring 2022 which is when I'm planning to get it. I get the desire to play something new but I'm only now finishing Witcher 3 and I really enjoy the polished experience.

Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by jjoonathan »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #55
warpech wrote: post #2

It seems that everybody seems to hate this game, or rather unfinishedness of it. Meanwhile, I am playing it since 2 weeks on PS4 (not Pro) and totally enjoying every minute it.

IMO the real issue is less that it’s unfinished and more that the product at its best doesn’t seem to live up to its lofty expectations (disclaimer: have not played it and don’t intend to until it goes on sale, just watched others and read a good number of reviews). From what I understand it’s a fairly anodyne action-RPG, with routine quests, an underwhelming plot, and not too many interesting choices for character d…

> disclaimer: have not played it

> routine quests, an underwhelming plot, and not too many interesting choices for character development

Come on, man.

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