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Okay, then you are attributing an intent to harm or take hostages government officials to undetermined members of Capitol takeover gang, is that correct?
I'm saying I have no idea what their intentions were but that in terms of the law, intentions matter and I believe law enforcement should investigate to determine what they intended to do.
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Please do not take HN threads further into ideological or nationalistic flamewar.
I had not made any ideological or nationalistic comment I merely stated that culturally american values are very different and is often forced upon people in other countries via the internet. I don't wish HN to become that way, once I see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html enforcing conformity to american culture I will stop using it as I'm sure many users in other countries will. Thank you Dang for mod…
As for your general point, HN users are about 50% in the US, and of course some of those are immigrants/expats. So HN is a highly international site. It certainly has a US orientation, but I think that's far from "conformity to American culture" and certainly we have zero intention of forcing that. We want people to be themselves and have curious conversation across their differences.
In a way I think a bigger problem here is the opposite to what you're saying. Because so many of the non-American users here have such incredibly good English, it seems on the surface that the site is much more uniform than it is. People have no idea how diverse the community here is, and it makes for a lot of misunderstandings, often bitter ones.
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We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25705107 .
Why is that if I may ask? This was in direct response to the point on neo-imperialism and American foreign influence by the parent.
Most likely it was because the subthread was too generic relative to the OP. What makes articles intellectually interesting are the specifics, the curious bits, the diffs [2] between it and comparable things. In the present case that was certainly the Ugandan aspect, and the theme of American cultural domination vis-a-vis Europe is a change of subject relative to that.
Changes of subject can be fine if they're unpredictable and whimsical, but definitely not when they're a move towards the generic. Generic topics are like large planets with powerful gravitational fields—or even black holes—the default trend is for all threads to get sucked towards them, and that leads to a much less interesting place.
[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
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#384I wish there would be a societal awakening in Europe and people would boycott American services. Countries need to reclaim their digital sovereignty if they hope to preserve their culture. Back in college everyone I knew browsed reddit, 9gag, facebook, etc for hours every day. The european youth is getting raised by America and fed its political ideology one meme/discussion thread at a time. It took me a long while t…
So you want to idolicize the model of China?
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We've banned this account for using the site primarily (exclusively?) for political flamewar. That's not allowed because it destroys the curious conversation this site exists for. Yes, we ban accounts that do it regardless of their ideological flavor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
Then I hope you are also banning their adversary.
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I honestly don't understand Brexit. My usual assumption when strange things happen in politics is game-theory-compatible: there are strong incentive structures driving the behavior. A roughly equivalent statement: some (possibly large) group of people is going to get rich off it, and they're directly or indirectly driving the change. But here? I can't point to obvious actors with enough pushing power that would benef…
Voting for Brexit like voting for Trump is partly to raise awareness to people who were harmed by previous policies, like globalisation etc. They don't expect that Brexit or Trump will solve the problem, they just want new order, mayhem and attention which might lead to improvement of their situation. Hillary didn't visit the rust belt, Biden did. In England they didn't care about the situation in the north, the rate…
Bill Clinton opposed NAFTA, Barbara Jordan wanted to slash legal immigration, and Democrats opposed the Iraq war after Bush's reelection.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration...
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This was the narrative before Brexit, and yet that didn't ultimately stop it. Game theory rarely helps when the actors aren't perfectly rational, which they aren't.
I honestly don't understand Brexit. My usual assumption when strange things happen in politics is game-theory-compatible: there are strong incentive structures driving the behavior. A roughly equivalent statement: some (possibly large) group of people is going to get rich off it, and they're directly or indirectly driving the change. But here? I can't point to obvious actors with enough pushing power that would benef…
Here's a Nuffield College survey on the subject: http://csi.nuff.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Carl_Rea...
I didn't vote for it but maybe taking people at their word for why they voted for it is a good idea?
Would you rather other people assigned their own ratios as to why you made your voting decisions, or actually listened to you?
Most people can understand the arguments for both sides of most debates, it just involves a little work to grok what they haven't themselves, concluded.
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#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm saying I have no idea what their intentions were but that in terms of the law, intentions matter and I believe law enforcement should investigate to determine what they intended to do.
100% agreed. But before that let's not assume anything that is criminally and even capital punishable.
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> Now of course most of the governments that would do this would be authoritarian Would they be? Consider what just happened in the USA: All of the major social media companies blocked a significant portion of the population because of the attempted subversion of democracy in the country. Now imagine if some similar subversion were attempted in another country, say Ecuador? Would these social media companies be as wi…
Case in point, the fascists in India became very concerned about Trump being deplatformed. They decried it as a lack of tolerance, because they knew there’s no difference between what Trump does and what they do.