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Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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Miele appliances (for example) still last decades and all efforts are made by the manufacturer to find you spare parts if you need. But they cost 3-4x more than a budget appliance. That's a key aspect of the market here: People tend to compare on purchase price. If manufacturers have to compete on price, of course something has to give in order to make cheaper appliances... The market tends to give consumers what the…

> The market tends to give consumers what they want. The market tends to give consumers what they buy . This is distinct from what they ask for , which too is distinct from what they want , which too is distinct from what they like (and, while we're at it, from what they approve of).

And on the producer side, what they market as is distinct from what they make, what they try to make is distinct from what gets shipped, etc.

A major point of markets is to try and figure this out iteratively. You can usefully think of it as an optimization algorithm that in practics prone to local minima but has some mechanisms to try and get out of them, which sometimes work.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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SIM/operator locks have been already rare (in Europe) for a while, and that's great! But there are Android phones that come with bootloader/OS lock, which often means old device is stuck with some ancient OS version (and some bundled bloatware), instead of being able to be reflashed to a recent LineageOS.

Even LineageOS can only help so far. I've got a Galaxy S7 Edge, bought it dec. 2016. It's not even supported by Lineage OS any more.

You should switch to the official OS then - it just got an update. As it also did 3, 6 and 12 months ago.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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I kind of wonder if we're looking at solving this the wrong way. Instead of mandating that manufacturers take specific steps to fix the waste problem, maybe it would be better to tag items at manufacture and charge device makers a percentage based on how long before it enters the waste stream. Manufacturers could solve this by either: - Making their things easy to repair - Creating in house recycling programs - Makin…

Making the producers responsible for the disposal might be the best way. I don't exactly know how it would be implemented but I'd like to see it for packaging too. Local authorities should be able to collect up all Mcdonalds packaging and hand it back to them. Make them responsible for its disposal. Then they will be incentivised to reduce the amount of packaging that they produce.

> Local authorities should be able to collect up all Mcdonalds packaging and hand it back to them.

Absolutely!

It is far too easy to create disposable crap that ends up dumped all over the planet. I get so frustrated seeing garbage all over the place in natural places.

I do think its a lot easier to focus on the higher ticket items first.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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Even LineageOS can only help so far. I've got a Galaxy S7 Edge, bought it dec. 2016. It's not even supported by Lineage OS any more.

You should switch to the official OS then - it just got an update. As it also did 3, 6 and 12 months ago.

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Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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The new phone lock du jour is the manufacturer's anti theft mechanism. I recently got two iphones from their owners, pulled out of the drawer to monetize them on classifieds. Both locked and unresettable without the previous owners help (one could be unlocked because I got her account password over the phone, huge nogo but she trusts me to not screw with her account). The other not, account was lost. Apple also now t…

This one is a pretty obvious trade off, does anyone know of good data on the impact of Apples policy on iphone theft rates and/or sales rate of stolen phones?

You can't find a Macbook in any second hand store around Prague. It used to be full of them.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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I recently bought a 50€ electric chainsaw at an Aldi discount store in Europe (against my better judgement). After a few uses, the chain tightening bolt broke into two pieces. I begged them to send me just the bolt, but NO. They said I'm not entitled to repair it. I was even willing to pay for it, but I couldn't find it below 15€ on the internet. So I sent the whole chainsaw to the repair service on their dime and th…

Now you have one with an in-tact screw you should take it out and figure out the size and thread-pitch so if it breaks again you can buy a generic one. And then post the info online somewhere - even if it's a random Reddit thread Google will pick it up and a search like "Aldi chainsaw chain tightening screw replacement" should pick it up.

It's a special bolt. I would have to buy a lathe. I have a 3D printer at home and I taught myself 3D design so I already made a bunch of replacement parts out of plastic.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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I kind of wonder if we're looking at solving this the wrong way. Instead of mandating that manufacturers take specific steps to fix the waste problem, maybe it would be better to tag items at manufacture and charge device makers a percentage based on how long before it enters the waste stream. Manufacturers could solve this by either: - Making their things easy to repair - Creating in house recycling programs - Makin…

Your suggested strategy isn't mutually exclusive - consumers could have the right to repair and manufacturers could be billed based on the value (negative or positive) of waste material that they generate.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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Louis Rossman owns a repair shop in NYC and has been touring the nation lobbying for Right to Repair. He's rarely sees success though because the lobbyists for places like Apple have deep pockets and there isn't a lot of public outrage. The article is wrong to give any credit to Apple for being on the side of Right to Repair, as Louis explains in numerous videos. https://youtu.be/zFA3szW9nWk

I switched from iPhone to Fairphone mainly because of the fact that my last two iPhones became irreparable for what I regarded as stupid reasons.

Re: Europe Is Guaranteeing Citizens the Right to Repair

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SIM/operator locks have been already rare (in Europe) for a while, and that's great! But there are Android phones that come with bootloader/OS lock, which often means old device is stuck with some ancient OS version (and some bundled bloatware), instead of being able to be reflashed to a recent LineageOS.

Even LineageOS can only help so far. I've got a Galaxy S7 Edge, bought it dec. 2016. It's not even supported by Lineage OS any more.

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