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Re: Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support

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Parler wasn't some innocent social media site that happened to have some disgusting content on it. The disgusting content was literally its reason for existing, despite all of the bland "we're just a free speech site" stuff. And I have yet to hear anyone discuss how "anything goes" and social media do not mix. It's much easier to turn a community toxic than it is to keep it healthy, and healthy communities (of any so…

I remember very well as a middle eastern how ISIS was freely allowed to use Twitter, Facebook and Youtube for recruitment and propaganda in 2015 and none of those platforms did anything about it. Also just today this story was on the front page in HN: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebo... So spare us all the "No hate and violence on our platform" BS. Either you go after all hate and violence…

Cynical take? I think Twitter and others are acting on advice of counsel, scared they'll be considered an accessory to insurrection.

But... horses, barn, door

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post #222

The rise of the Authoritarian left is upon. Brace for patriot act 2.0. Being banned from banking, flights, job opportunities, and society based on political association. Watch the crackdown as Biden is a deeply problematic and corrupt individual, that won an election that increasingly people will question as taxes are raised on the productive, and covid rules are used to justify taking away rights.

if you don't want to be treated like a terrorist, you probably shouldn't fly to the nations capitol and storm congress.

Your hubris prevents them from seeing how abuses of power and petty acts of tyranny can backfire.

Re: Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support

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post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, Parler has been use to literally plan an overthrow of the US government. That's why it's banned. So far, Parler and its associates have come a lot closer to dismantling American democracy than Iran ever has. That's why they get taken more seriously. Neither Twitter, nor Apple, nor Amazon want to be responsible for the rise of a fascist regime in the US. Too often, you can't see the rise of authoritarianism…

Respectfully, I think you missed the point. There are many voices on parler not out to overthrow anything. You may disagree with them, but they are within the mainstream of political debate. The power of a tech oligarchy to take out its competitor is a serious violation of anti-trust law. There are less ham-fisted approaches to dealing with illegal activity. The DOJ and FBI have effective means to do it.

Now that the Parler dataset has been harvested - we may actually get to see how many of those voices were rational.

Re: Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I poked around on it some, and noticed something ... disturbing. I saw what I assumed were bots posting a lot of garbage links to 'articles' like "Obama compound raided!" and "8 Democrats switch to Republican Party" (that actually happened in Feb 2020, but the link was to an undated rerun and the link was posted.. 2 days ago?). The links were to such trustworthy sites as 'firstusanews.us' (made up, but all variants l…

> the only way to get 'badged' is to use the mobile app and take a picture of govt ID (driver license, passport, etc). Maybe the entire site is just an FBI honeypot for right-wing extremists? (It's obviously not an NSA honeypot, because they could afford to self-host.)

With a double lawyer of tinfoil you can ask "maybe the site is just a honeypot for a foreign government?"

Re: Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support

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feels like the US people is asking for ruler like CCP, is it all what you want? Parler is likely not innocent, but why it's Amazon to take them down? Is that mean all these big companies can shutdown any customers on their platforms for some reasons they believed are right, but what if they use it to shutdown competitions?

It has always been the case that providers can shut you down for any or no reason. Look at gcp for a plethora of examples.

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post #86

Serious question (not in the US), if "all" the content on Parler was inciting terrorism or what have you, why was it not simply subpoena'd by the relevant authority for user data? Isn't a site like this basically a honeypot for undesireables, and therefore a handy place for LE to round up all the people likely to commit violence? Or are there too many for LE, or is LE itself compromised and has members on the site?

My observation is just a single observation, but after all the hubbub I created a Parler account and I saw a more milquetoast Twitter. It honestly reminded me of a country club in that it was mostly an older people version of Twitter.

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post #216

To all the HN users defending Parler by drawing false equivalencies to BLM, the NYTimes, Saudi Arabia, and China, without acknowledging the events of The last few months: shame on you. Parler and it’s moderator team , as well as Donald Trump, has supported COVID denial, the election fraud conspiracy, and Q conspiracy, for over a year. This was a concentrated effort to brain wash American conservatives to completely d…

> What you cannot do is organize thousands of individuals to commit violent acts, or call for and attempt the murder of rightfully elected public officials not just on January 6 - but again on Inauguration Day.

Democrats called for violence against Trump and Republicans for years and they encouraged the blm riots for months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUGKKHVt7pI&feature=emb_titl...

Re: Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support

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This needs to happen. Parler is not a "social network" in the same way Twitter, Facebook or Reddit are. It is a radicalisation platform hiding behind a Silicon Valley style startup veneer. I signed up for Parler 6 weeks ago and what I have seen from the platform is frightening. It isn't dumb memes and gifs but hardcore alt-right propaganda and conspiracy theories. Within hours of commenting on posts I was contacted a…

>Parler is not a "social network" in the same way Twitter, Facebook or Reddit are. It is a radicalisation platform hiding behind a Silicon Valley style startup veneer.

Actually, that's exactly how I'd describe modern reddit, and I guess Twitter too.

Re: Parler drops offline after Amazon pulls support

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Maybe this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErTzgBxXcAAuTkC?format=jpg&name=...

Had something https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErTzgBuXYAAB4y2?format=jpg&name=...

To do with it https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErTzgB3XIAcffGC?format=jpg&name=...

The bar for "enough moderation to show due care" isn't that high, and they intentionally limboed right under it.

Oh no, the consequences of my own actions...

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