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If I can play devil's advocate for a moment: 1) "Pro-life" conservatives believe that fetuses are human lives (persons) worthy of protection and prioritize that over the right of the mother to control her own body. That might sound bad, but there is a logic to it. "Pro-choice" advocates would argue that the fetus is not a person and that ultimately the mother should have full rights to her own body. Leaving aside the…

Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose and was resisting arrest as he was having a panic attack. Watching the full uncut video, the officers showed remarkable constraint in dealing with him. It's a sad story, but its not a murder.

I think you watched the wrong video sir

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and this is how russian psyops win: people either stop believing anything or call for permanent free for all disguised as free speech.

Yes the Russians tricked people into thinking CNN was biased, while all reasonable people know that it's completely neutral. Just like Komsomolskaya Pravda. People who thought they were biased were clearly indoctrinated by capitalist lies.

nope, the russian agenda is for west democracy citizens to stop believing in any source of information. it works spectacularly well.

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I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. Are there many, if any, equivalent people to Bannon on the left? My theory is that the core of Bannon is neoconfederacy: under all the nonsense he talks is the desire to see the North burn. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. Bannon is not a 'career politician' dunk on the other tribe Yes, the Democrats are corrupt, but to focus on that, at…

I wonder how accurate is your statement and does it contributes to an informed conversation? Anecdotal. There are tens of millions of GOP voters, I have many friends that support GOP, non of them is a fasict.

but do they know who they vote for? (same question to the democratic voters)

i'm not from US - we've got a multiparty system that seems to kind of work - but I've done one of those political alignment tests for parties, got a result, and then proceeded to do a political alignment test for politicians. None of the folks I was supposedly aligned with were members of the party I was aligned with best. make of that what you will.

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I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

Relevant: https://www.kasiababis.com/comics/ghqk79ww9r3ttpw6u2pzntpqow...

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> How would Democrats react if they had to deal with 4 years of fraud investigations, #Resistance, #NotMyPresident? I'm sorry, did you not live through the entire Obama presidency?

I don't support either of those presidents, but the things you each describe are not comparable in scale or character, IMO. The asymmetry that GP describes is real, and everyone should be wary about the way politics are carried out now.

If you don't think they're comparable in scale or character then I don't think you were actually paying attention.

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And killed a police officer. By beating him to death. With American flags and a fire extinguisher. They were still beating him long after he was down.

Yup, and DC was also on fire, nearly burned down by reckless protesters in May! Maybe we should have a larger police presence in our nations capitol to prevent all these insurrections?

You're trying to have an argument with someone else who has a different opinion than me. I've never said that BLM protestors are well within their rights to burn down buildings or that we shouldn't have police protect the nation's capital.

Not only do I not have these opinions, I haven't seen those opinions expressed here.

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An important distinction I've also noticed is that the burning down and looting done in riots this summer was an act of spontaneoud anger and rage, not a planned event in order to create fear. No one was planning the looting of a store three weeks in advance, and this is a really large difference being a riot representing the (unproductive) language of the unheard, and an insurrectionist plot.

> No one was planning the looting of a store three weeks in advance The nightly riots in Portland and other cities were planned and organized in advance through messaging and social apps as well as with physical posters. You can find the screen caps and photos online if you look. There were also several instances where groups of people were arrested after crossing state lines to attend riots. Both sides have bad acto…

I would love a screencap of people organizing to specifically loot or damage one store specifically weeks or days in advance. I haven't seen any.

If people just went to a protest expecting some possible light violence, I don't see how that's comparable. Would you make OWS or G7 protests illegal because people going there rightly expect tear gas and batons?

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I didn't find anything. I did show that Trump is surprisingly clean. Maybe because of lacking ability, but unusually clean for a president. Cleaner than Biden in case of Ukraine for example, even if Trumps dealings are self-serving. Furthermore Bidens dealings are relevant to the US geopolitical ambitions and the censorship of it was a disgrace for the press. It keeps people uninformed, even if presentation of these…

> but unusually clean for a president What's the standard here? Reagan arming Contra rebels by selling arms to Iran? Or are you comparing to the presidential campaigns for President? Are you claiming that Obama and Romney and Clinton colluded way more with foreign powers? Or are you comparing with Biden, who profited in no way from his dealings in Ukraine?

If there was a way to indict executive overreach on issues like surveillance and propaganda for example, things that are actually important compared to utterances of certain persons, the numbers would look quite different.

Trump is as guilty of executive overreach, no questions asked, but the criticism is very selective.

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The argument has been beaten to death so I’m probably not saying anything new to most people here, but two parties is the only stable configuration. In a first-past-the-post system, the smaller parties after the first two will be very quickly eliminated or consolidated (this includes the limiting case of no parties, where everyone is a party of one). On the other hand, if you have one large party it will eventually s…

> but two parties is the only stable configuration Do you mean this in the US context specifically or in general? There are plenty of countries with more than two parties and very stable governments.

Yes, it depends on the voting mechanism and other aspects of how the government is set up, as other commenters pointed out. I was talking about the US specifically.

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I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. Are there many, if any, equivalent people to Bannon on the left? My theory is that the core of Bannon is neoconfederacy: under all the nonsense he talks is the desire to see the North burn. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. Bannon is not a 'career politician' dunk on the other tribe Yes, the Democrats are corrupt, but to focus on that, at…

> of what the Republican party has become: the 'other tribe' is, really and truly, fascist and seditionist. All of them?

Mitt Romney talks the talk but his voting record aligns with Trump.
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