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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Consider this in context: No ban for fighting the wars in Iraq, Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. No ban for torturing people or extraordinary rendition. No ban for mass illegal spying on Americans and lying about it. No ban for droning wedding parties or hospitals. But if you dare to suggest that a political party, that cheated Bernie Sanders out of the nomination and spent the last four years lying about how Trump, th…

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How about Adam Schiff, whose lie that he had seen "more than circumstantial evidence" of Trump-Russia collusion was the cornerstone of the case for a Special Council?[0] We got a two year investigation into the question of collusion... which found no such evidence: "The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired…

> We got a two year investigation into the question of collusion... which found no such evidence: No that is wrong. "The investigation found there were over 100 contacts between Trump campaign advisors and individuals affiliated with the Russian government, before and after the election, but the evidence was insufficient to show an illegal conspiracy" > Many of you in this thread likely still believe the lie that Tru…

bullshit

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post #96

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It's very easy to find articles that find that suggestion/engagement algorithms for YouTube, and presumably Facebook and others, pushes people toward more and more radical (extreme) content. https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/10419/... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/algorithms-take-ov... https://theconversation.com/youtubes-algorithms-might-radica...

Quoting your third link > Does YouTube create extremists? A recent study caused arguments among scientists by arguing that the algorithms that power the site don’t help radicalise people by recommending ever more extreme videos, as has been suggested in recent years. why are you misrepresenting your sources?

> It’s hard to argue that YouTube doesn’t play a role in radicalisation.

Why aren't you reading the article? So many questions, so few answers.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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When you dance with Trump, Trump doesn't change, Trump changes you. That is certainly true for the "left". In quotes because I am not from the US, but the effect he had is very obvious. I am curious how the next term plays out. What would they even complain about?

It's good point. Now that the dems have the exec, house and senate, who are they going to blame for everything?

Pretty obviously "domestic terrorists" https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1348497645531226112, who seeing what's happening will likely actually engage in some domestic terrorism, and thus the cycle will continue.

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How about Adam Schiff, whose lie that he had seen "more than circumstantial evidence" of Trump-Russia collusion was the cornerstone of the case for a Special Council?[0] We got a two year investigation into the question of collusion... which found no such evidence: "The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired…

You are downvoted, but I think you are correct on the Russian story. It was made up or at least severely exaggerated to save face in an embarrassing election defeat. I cannot understand how people can still believe this. I asked what kind of messages the Russians used to influence people on large scale for the election - silence ensued. This is ridiculous, like in a cult. This is plainly US propaganda at its finest.

No it's not. Read the report.

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BTW, throwing this out here. I guess many republicans are pretty outraged at the moment with Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc. Those companies feel safe because a democrat won the elections and they don't have to be afraid of reprisals. But what happens in three years when a new electoral campaign starts? How wary will these companies be of the chance of a new republican president? How much of their power will they use to prevent such a possibility from happening?

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Can you point me to a source on how Giuliani "meaningfully facilitated illegal insurrection against a peaceful transition"? I can't name democrats who facilitated ilegal insurrection in regards to this past election, but I can name democrats who facilitated illegal insurrection against their own communities after the George Floyd incident. The democrats who refused to call out rioting and looting (as a separate incid…

> those who called for the short-sighted defunding of police departments in cities with high crime (look up the uptick in shootings and murder in NYC after the city removed $1 billion from the police department) This is facilitating illegal insurrection? And NYC is your example... Surely this could have nothing to do with covid and the whatever else but a 112% increase in shootings must be the consequence of a budget…

"Defund" has broad meaning to all changes that affect NYPD. Including more risk for NYPD officers to try and arrest a violent offender.

The topic is complicated, COVID + "Defund" + Other topics increasing crime in NYC.

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But they did: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-hous...

Looks like the police did their jobs (for once).

The lack of police amd national guard response to the Capitol siege is a direct result of the media coverage of the BLM protests- both the mayor and security officials didn't want to look bad, or make matters worse.

It is worth pointing out that, prior to this, right wing protests have actually been very peaceful. Protesting tax rates really isnt enough to rile up the radical elements. "Stop the Steal" apparently was, and definitely caught them flat footed.

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There is no ministry being erected, just a bunch of private parties not willing to get dragged into the mud.

No official ministry, but the private parties appear to be acting with a great deal of coordination.

Really? Whats the evidence?

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I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

As an outsider, I've always understood it like this. The conservatives and right leaning people value individual rights and freedom. For example, they are against something like mandatory healthcare, because they might be perfectly healthy yet would have to pay to carry those who are not. Democrats and left leaning people on the other hand value a more general sense of freedom and health. They want to carry the weake…

> The conservatives and right leaning people value individual rights and freedom.

As another outsider, I get the impression US conservatives are selective about the groups they consider worthy of those rights and freedoms. They oppose women's choice to abort. They oppose rights and freedoms for immigrants. They came out in support of cops who had violated rights of their own african-american citizens.

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