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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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It’s a figure of speech. Grow up.

We've banned this account for trolling. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

What does it mean if a username is green? I thought he was some kind of mod / admin, because it stands out.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rallying call like that simply doesn’t work on Democrats, but god does it work on Republicans. I just don’t see any of this dying down at all, and the Republicans are always prepared to tap into this demo around election time (in two years time at the mid terms). They live for this. Banning the…

Do you have any evidence that this madness can’t happen to “our side?

It should - madness worked.

Rail all you like about it, but the republicans under Trump had both houses, got two judges, defunded a vast number of programs, won multiple issues in their identity wars, and donald trump got more voters to come out and vote for him in the second election

He got more votes, despite having a 40-45(?) approval rating (what I remember from 538)

The only “mistake” was riling up democrats enough to make them come out and vote more.

What are the repercussions?

There will be political roadblocks to see how much damage can be offloaded or dumped into a heat sink.

The republicans will regroup and then prepare for the Biden presidency.

So yes, you are right - madness was/is the superior political tactic. The better tactic survives.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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post #300

Not a comment on to the ban, but trying to gain perspective on the overall heated environment. I wonder, if there are more than 2 political parties representing different view points in Congress will that help in decreasing polarization?

The argument has been beaten to death so I’m probably not saying anything new to most people here, but two parties is the only stable configuration. In a first-past-the-post system, the smaller parties after the first two will be very quickly eliminated or consolidated (this includes the limiting case of no parties, where everyone is a party of one). On the other hand, if you have one large party it will eventually s…

> but two parties is the only stable configuration

Do you mean this in the US context specifically or in general? There are plenty of countries with more than two parties and very stable governments.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rallying call like that simply doesn’t work on Democrats, but god does it work on Republicans. I just don’t see any of this dying down at all, and the Republicans are always prepared to tap into this demo around election time (in two years time at the mid terms). They live for this. Banning the…

The video's been removed by its uploader. What was it?

Evidence against the idea that the fringes are propagating revolt movements exclusively in alt media/networks like Parler. Foxnews has the same stuff, he was saying in no uncertain terms that the election was a fraud, and Democrats violated the constitution and that the people need to do something about it - no caveats.

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As a liberal in big tech, I can assure you the primary motivation is that we are 1. horrified by trump, always have been 2. aren't concerned that trump will unilaterally end our business if we oppose him anymore 3. are extremely concerned about american democracy and our lives, given the way trump has convinced almost half the country that the election was rigged, which has encouraged them to almost kill an entire br…

Do you remember Russiagate? How half the country literally believed that Trump was a puppet of Russia, and that Russia had hacked the election. Hilary Clinton wrote a book about it. I will say that Trump should act with more tact and decorum, but just months ago CHAZ was a literal autonomous zone acting outside of the laws and authority of the city of Seattle. Nobody should have had their ability to communicate freel…

Yeah Chaz was ridiculous and a gift to tucker Carlson. I am glad all that stuff is over it was embarrassing.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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I've seen the term "permanently suspended" several times already. Not a native speaker, could someone please explain to me the difference between that and "banned"?

The best I can figure it is this: 'suspended' has a temporary sense, 'banned' has a permanent sense. While 'permanently banned' is a tautology, 'permanently suspended' is an oxymoron. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/suspended suspended = Caused to stop for a while; interrupted or delayed. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banned banned = Forbidden; not allowed. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oxymoron oxymoron = A figure…

On the other hand 'banned for [duration]' and 'temporary ban' have definitely been in use for a long time, which I personally have never thought seems wrong. If those uses are in play, 'permanently banned' can actually be motivated for disambiguation.

And I would suggest '[permanent] suspension' may have connotations of a statement about reversibility. 'We have the ability to reverse this action [but we intend not to exercise that ability, ever].'

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Sorry, but, you've got it all wrong. "We" are whoever shows up.

Yes and no. We should have standards.

Okay, so, "we" are educated, tech/startup people. How do you want to enforce these standards? Sign up with a work email and submit a LinkedIn profile? That's just Blind with an extra step, and I think we all know the quality of discussion that happens there.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Or maybe they are doing this because an unprecedented (in the US anyways) social media coordinated mob was perhaps less than a few minutes away from capturing and doing god knows what to the entire line of succession of our government.

The big tech oligarchs couldn't give less of a shit about that.

If I were them I would be scared of reprisals and would be in active dialog with the government pleading for help in managing the storm partially created by the social media platforms.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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post #240

I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

When you dance with Trump, Trump doesn't change, Trump changes you.

That is certainly true for the "left". In quotes because I am not from the US, but the effect he had is very obvious.

I am curious how the next term plays out. What would they even complain about?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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It seems unlikely that there are people in the US with any interest in politics that aren’t already well aware of who Trump, Bannon, and Guliani are.

You would be very surprised at the number of people who have tuned out completely.

Yay for them
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