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Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by saargrin »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #48
traveler01 wrote: post #41

I don't know why but what's happening to Parler doesn't feel right at all...

While it does feel reactionary (if that's the right word) that the services are only now revoking doing business with Parler, they are within their rights to stop the contract one-sidedly. I'm actually fairly sure that in the contract they don't even have to state a reason, but don't quote me on that. Something something free market.

that would be cool if they also implemented the same policy towards other violent/inciteful players and terror organizations

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#102

Post by hnarn »

mikkom wrote: post #94
mikewarot wrote: post #47

AWS gives 5Gbps connectivity to instances, according to https://docs.aws.amazon.com/whitepapers/latest/ec2-networkin... So, if the sum total of Parler was 70 Terabytes, as claimed... the transfer time would be 38 hours, if it was hosted on one instance... but it obviously wasn't. It was more likely only a matter of minutes. This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure…

> This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure could be mirrored faster than you could notice. and YOU are paying for the bandwidth too :-)

"There's no such thing as a free security incident"

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#103

Post by andromeduck »

swebs wrote: post #92
andromeduck wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The left loves to defund/demonitize firearms content, the right nudity and lgbt content and both love deplatforming their opponents one moment and then get outraged if their stuff is removed the next. You see it with net neutrality, cda230, demonitization, forum moderation etc. It seems people just don't care about consistency anymore, it's just whatever is convenient in the moment.

You're talking about authoritarians on both sides. There are still libertarians on both sides (and even independent) who care more about civil liberties like freedom of speech (the ideal, not just the first amendment).

It's true but feels like a loosing battle for principled moderates/libertarians these days. Everyone loves to critique and tear down what we have for real or perceived injustices but few are willing to the context and compromises that led to them or propose realizable, incremental solutions.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#104

Post by zenexer »

Can we get some better sources? This seems like an awful lot of hearsay, and there have been several comments from HN readers in this thread[0] and another[1] indicating that there is no public evidence to support these claims. Given that the author is alleging this is a crowdsourced effort, such evidence should be trivial to locate, but none has surfaced.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25727332

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25725268

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#105

Post by willejs »

de6u99er wrote: post #40
willejs wrote: post #34

This post seems fake. There was a group of people archiving the public content of parler using this docker container https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab and archiving it here https://tracker.archiveteam.org/parler/ . I can't validate anything else in this twitter post. The administrator accounts part all seems fake, unless anyone has found the rest of the content or has a better source? Previous discussion dee…

Check out my comment, below the top-comment in this post.

Your post just links to the list of public Parler posts that were scraped from the website. Not evidence of a hack.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#106

Post by drewmol »

Veen wrote: post #10
osgovernment wrote: post #3

If you're not signed up as a foster/adoptive parent, now is a good time if you want to have an impact. There are going to be a lot of kids flooding into the system from families that felt emboldened to become domestic terrorists by the President and those he surrounds himself with.

I can't think of a more effective way to spark a civil war than threatening to take people's children from them.

I can: Actually doing it, and selling them. Claiming they are not human, they deserve it, they are property, they are unequal, they are unworthy of compassion, then outlawing people's liberty to prevent it. And do it based on skin pigment.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#107

Post by cedilla »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #100
swebs wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're talking about authoritarians on both sides. There are still libertarians on both sides (and even independent) who care more about civil liberties like freedom of speech (the ideal, not just the first amendment).

This! It frustrates me so much that so many people constantly just talk about left and right while completely ignoring the Y-axis of the political spectrum! To me, both parties are firmly in authoritarian land, and no amount of calling it "both sides-ism" will change that fact. Another frustrating thing is seeing people take a position and just label everything one or the other side, while there are a huge swath of v…

It frustrates me that people mistake the political compass meme for a thing that actually exists.

It's more complex than "left" vs. "right" and authoritarian vs. libertarian. Compressing politics down to literally two dimensions is a disservice to any political discussion.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#108

Post by WJW »

cbozeman wrote: post #73
mikewarot wrote: post #47

AWS gives 5Gbps connectivity to instances, according to https://docs.aws.amazon.com/whitepapers/latest/ec2-networkin... So, if the sum total of Parler was 70 Terabytes, as claimed... the transfer time would be 38 hours, if it was hosted on one instance... but it obviously wasn't. It was more likely only a matter of minutes. This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure…

> This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure could be mirrored faster than you could notice. This is actually fucking terrifying.

Additional interesting scenarios:

- Nation states that manage to infiltrate a few spies into Amazon or Google could "just" copy the backups of the database without anyone being the wiser.

- My favourite mission ever from the "Shadowrun" games: Step 1 was a mission to alter the backups of some main database (stored at some 3rd party) to include additional admin credentials. Step 2 was to "clumsily" attack the main target and not-quite-hack the main system so that they would restore from backup just to be sure, thereby importing the actual backdoor.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by willejs »

creato wrote: post #38
willejs wrote: post #34

This post seems fake. There was a group of people archiving the public content of parler using this docker container https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab and archiving it here https://tracker.archiveteam.org/parler/ . I can't validate anything else in this twitter post. The administrator accounts part all seems fake, unless anyone has found the rest of the content or has a better source? Previous discussion dee…

The reddit post describing the hack mentioned creating "MILLIONS" of fake admin accounts: https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/kuqvs3/all_par...

This directly references the public archive team effort, not evidence of a the hack. The comment and “story” that is circulating seems like it’s just taking the public archive team effort and adding some sort of falsehoods around a hack where they were also pulling data via admin functionality. I can’t find any other information about the admin hack apart from this potentially false story.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#110

Post by AniseAbyss »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #74
traveler01 wrote: post #41

I don't know why but what's happening to Parler doesn't feel right at all...

I think that's what's happening is that the big tech cos have had conversations with their lawyers along the lines of "it's one thing to host talk of insurrection from Bob in Knoxville when it looks like cosplay fantasising, but it's another to host it after they killed an on duty police officer while storming the Capitol building with intent to kill senators". The provider's potential liability in planning high crim…

This reminds me of the fascist movement in 1930s Britain. They became socially unacceptable when they started to use violence.
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