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Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by swebs »

cbozeman wrote: post #75
AniseAbyss wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech companies are shutting the Trump movement down because of public pressure. Its no different from any other boycott in that sense. Capitol Hill riot was the classic "free speech but not free from consequences" moment. Association with conservatives is now a financial liability.

> Association with conservatives is now a financial liability. Considering they make up an enormous percentage of the population, I'm not sure that's a sound strategic move.

If any competitors pop up, they can just get AWS or VISA to pull the plug. We're now officially living in a totalitarian state and Silicon Valley is the secret police.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by swebs »

andromeduck wrote: post #89
cbozeman wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Association with conservatives is now a financial liability. Considering they make up an enormous percentage of the population, I'm not sure that's a sound strategic move.

The left loves to defund/demonitize firearms content, the right nudity and lgbt content and both love deplatforming their opponents one moment and then get outraged if their stuff is removed the next. You see it with net neutrality, cda230, demonitization, forum moderation etc. It seems people just don't care about consistency anymore, it's just whatever is convenient in the moment.

You're talking about authoritarians on both sides. There are still libertarians on both sides (and even independent) who care more about civil liberties like freedom of speech (the ideal, not just the first amendment).

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by Traster »

cbozeman wrote: post #82
Traster wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you do anything which goes against the dominant political narrative I'm so tired of this. The reason people are getting banned from these platforms and services isn't because of just run of the mill political views. They're getting banned because they are hosting content calling for the violent overthrow of the US government. Apple didn't ban Parler from the app store for their attitude towards capital gains tax…

> direct threats of violence and calls to incite lawless action And we see that every single day on Facebook and Twitter. Its against their terms of service, just like its against Parler's. As a single entity, I don't really give a shit about Parler. What I do give a shit about is treating everyone fairly. If Parler goes because it has a shitton of users and can't swiftly police all content, then Facebook needs to go…

I don't see how you can make the argument that child pornography is the same systemic risk as allowing people to openly plan to overthrow your democracy.

If child pornography is happening on your site, the FBI can come along and crack down, arrest those involved, and of course you're keeping logs to help them. If I plan a revolution on your site, the FBI are coming - not for me, for you. Once I'm in charge sure as shit you're not going to have the freedom to overthrow me the way I overhtrew you.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#94

Post by mikkom »

mikewarot wrote: post #47

AWS gives 5Gbps connectivity to instances, according to https://docs.aws.amazon.com/whitepapers/latest/ec2-networkin... So, if the sum total of Parler was 70 Terabytes, as claimed... the transfer time would be 38 hours, if it was hosted on one instance... but it obviously wasn't. It was more likely only a matter of minutes. This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure…

> This shows a new type of cloud hosting vulnerability. Your entire corporations infrastructure could be mirrored faster than you could notice.

and YOU are paying for the bandwidth too :-)

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by chaganated »

kjakm wrote: post #76
newbie578 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said it nicely. At the end of the day, we all look after ourselves the most, and one cannot avoid thinking what if this happened to our company? Twilio as a B2B doesn't gain a lot from being a "woke" company and following the trend of lynching Parler, on the contrary this can and will scream how Twilio can put your whole platform down overnight.. I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when inte…

>> I wonder when are we going to see a legal discussion if / when internet access is going to become a basic human right? Just like electricity became ubiquitous, I expect internet access (email, payment processing, etc) to also become a right. Is electricity a right?

In a way, yes (even in the US). You still have to pay for it, but there is a litany of rules and procedures they must follow before they can cut you off. Kind of like the foreclosure process.

They can't cut a customer's power over his politics--especially paying customers!

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#98

Post by saargrin »

neya wrote: post #4

"Twilio put out at midnight last night. In that Press Release, Twilio accidentally revealed which services Parler was using. Turns out it was all of the security authentications that were used to register a user. This allowed anyone to create a user, and not have to verify an email address, and immediately have a logged-on account. Well, because of that access, it gave them access to the behind the login box API that…

"accidentally"

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

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Post by LarvaFX »

atemerev wrote: post #44
LarvaFX wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, sure buddy. Financed by the Mercers[1], are you kidding me. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/15/media/rebekah-mercer-parl...

So what? The operation could have been approved only in the last few weeks or so. It is this "account verification" thing that convinced me. Even Facebook does not encourage you to upload a driving license, ffs.

So what? Anything could be. Maybe this site is a honeypot! Maybe not.

Just always cherry-picking the interpretation you happen like to be true does not lead to the truth, it leads to conspiracy phantasms.

Re: Parler Databases Disclosed

#100

Post by arminiusreturns »

swebs wrote: post #92
andromeduck wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The left loves to defund/demonitize firearms content, the right nudity and lgbt content and both love deplatforming their opponents one moment and then get outraged if their stuff is removed the next. You see it with net neutrality, cda230, demonitization, forum moderation etc. It seems people just don't care about consistency anymore, it's just whatever is convenient in the moment.

You're talking about authoritarians on both sides. There are still libertarians on both sides (and even independent) who care more about civil liberties like freedom of speech (the ideal, not just the first amendment).

This! It frustrates me so much that so many people constantly just talk about left and right while completely ignoring the Y-axis of the political spectrum! To me, both parties are firmly in authoritarian land, and no amount of calling it "both sides-ism" will change that fact.

Another frustrating thing is seeing people take a position and just label everything one or the other side, while there are a huge swath of voters and non-voters who don't identify with either party.

(sidenote: Right now, I am liking the Movement for a Peoples Party.)

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