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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #553

I read this post this morning and felt pretty smug in my choice to use Windows. But when I went to share a photo this evening, I found that the Chrome file picker in Windows is actually much worse! Not only does it not show previews for thumbnails, it doesn't even show the image in the detail pane. It just shows the registered application icon. So, you get a sea of big blue (E) Internet Explorer icons. Not sure if th…

There must be something wrong with your system.

https://i.imgur.com/KtTbjkq.png

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #298

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> it is quite clear that KDE has much more features. My guess is that the author prefers Gnome because yes, it has fewer features, but those feel more polished. KDE is powerful but some less frequently used features felt more like functional prototypes that were thrown somewhere into the nth level of the system settings. Then again the last time I tried it Gnome had a lot of issues as well, so maybe I'm completely wr…

There is a lot going on each week in KDE trying to improve the situation. Nate Graham is making a summary of the parts, he monitors: https://pointieststick.com/ There is definitely still quite a bit to improve but compared to 3 years ago, Plasma and KDE software has improved by a lot.

They pretty much had this nailed down in KDE 3.5, we're now 12 years later, how much longer will it take before current KDE will show any signs of being "finished"?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #36

You will find lots of such examples of a feature which you personally find very important and wonder why such a simple thing is not supported yet. I guess everyone has such examples. And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. For me personally, I wonder why mouse wheel/scroll acceleration is still not implemented. I implemented it a while ago for Xorg, which is outdated now, and also the maintainer w…

At least enough people care that its become a meme in some tech communities. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/File_Picker_meme

> https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/File_Picker_meme

> Debunking: lInUx Is JuSt A kErNeL

Ah yes, countering a meme with another meme. Good one.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Even worse is when you know the exact file name that you want to open, and the interface fights against you writing it! For example I want to open /tmp/a.png, but there's thousands of files on /tmp and the cursor disappears while "loading" them, and and some characters of the file name are lost, or typed on different parts of the interface.

That one really really really pissed me off because it’s a task I expect to do tens of times a day. Also it has some serious focus loss issues in that space where you’ll have to tab or click something again. I must have installed a Linux distribution 100 times with the intent of using it as a desktop and lasted less than a day every time. I’ve been doing it since 1998. Literally something that horrible punches me in…

> I bought a Mac now. I’m too old for the fight.

I said the same a decade ago. As of last week, I'm back on X11... chipping away at configs for hours and hours and hours.

But I have libnotify popups now. :D

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Tools and features have ergonomics and affordances that suggest a certain way of using them, and desktop filling just seems to encourage people to make a massive mess. Even when I was a Windows user, desktop icons were the first thing to go. Not having quick access to a dumping ground meant that I had to go out of my way to make a mess. As for a lack of system tray icons, the practical upshot is that my system bar is…

Somehow nextcloud shows a system tray icon on my Gnome laptop Looks like there are still tray icons, they just need to be implemented differently?

If you're using Ubuntu then they include an extension to bring them back. In older versions of Gnome 3 there used to be a pop-out panel in the bottom left for legacy system tray icons.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#568

You will find lots of such examples of a feature which you personally find very important and wonder why such a simple thing is not supported yet. I guess everyone has such examples. And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. For me personally, I wonder why mouse wheel/scroll acceleration is still not implemented. I implemented it a while ago for Xorg, which is outdated now, and also the maintainer w…

First, I fully agree: this is not a bug, it's a missing feature. Second, I may be a minority here, but I actually don't mind this feature missing at all. I however do (or did) mind Windows putting its "thumbs.db" files all over the place, so that's the first thing I deactivate when installing it (along with enabling "show hidden files" and "show extension for known file types").

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#569
post #65
post #27

There's more serious reasons this file picker is broken. Here's a trivial to reproduce and obvious issue that's been there for several years now: 1. Open a directory that loads slowly (e.g. one with thousands of files on a smb3 mount) 2. While the list is loading, select a file (but do not open it) 3. Wait for the whole list to load Once the list finishes loading, the file on the very top of the list gets automatical…

Let's do another... Open any directory with 3+ items. As first item is highlighted, quickly hit , , . The 3rd item opens... There is a lag when hitting and the last is processed out of order :/

Assuming an asynchronous UI programming model, I can only conceive this happening because they skipped having a proper Model and instead the View is accessed directly (in the Mode-View-Controller way of thinking).

However the most disturbing thing is that events might get to be processed our of order. Even if you stored current state in a proper Model, there is nothing you can do if your event queue ends up being ", , ".

I guess that's why Qt prefers to do all UI event processing exclusively in a single thread. The event queue will always be serviced in order.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#570

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To sound like Linus Torvalds, "that's braindead stupid!" I have never looked at the code in question, but it almost sounds like the developers went out of their way to create these ridiculous bugs, because the simplest solution definitely would not have something like that happen: The handler for Enter gets the current selection (which will definitely be the correct one) and opens it. The actual opening can be slow,…

This is an issue with X11 which I don't know exactly where it comes from and what causes it. Yes, it has to do with the async nature of it all and I agree it's stupid and it's a miracle the desktop even works. Over time, I've been wondering if Windows dodges this simply by having syscalls that interface with window procedures while Xorg deals horribly with it by being pure userland. Another issue is, there's no mappi…

> This is an issue with X11

What makes you think this is the case? X11 has an ordered event queue and there is no reason an application can't process the keystrokes in the correct order.

> Another issue is, there's no mapping of pid X11 window. It's simply impossible with the current design of client-server.

What do you need this for? There is _NET_WM_PID [0] which can be set by clients.

[0] https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.h...

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