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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by circularfoyers »

cycloptic wrote: post #395
stretchcat wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would advise holding off judgement on specific individuals unless you have worked with them closely and you have a deep understanding of why certain decisions were made. Is this advice meant to be applied against all people, or just other developers? I certainly wouldn't apply this standard to RIAA lawyers suing kids. I judge them to be worms even though I never worked with them. And don't even get me started on…

For me, it applies to everyone. I try hard to not hold a grudge. It's difficult but emotionally rewarding. If we are trying to be good open source citizens and avoid unnecessary fights, you can apply it just to that.

I just want to say that what you said here and in your other comments in this thread resonated with me in how you approached dissecting issues like ones that have been discussed here. I wish there were more people like you and it's a characteristic I hope I can be more like as well.

I respect that you are willing to admit you don't know the full history and implore others to understand why for example, certain decisions were made. It seems as if many people love to theorize about what these are, making correlations which are usually driven more by their feelings than reality.

I feel like character assassination was a phrase that I feel aptly describes how I've seen a lot of people treat people like Lennart Poettering. I feel as if some people are unable to separate person from their opinions. Not considering that person like they are more likely to do so if they were in person.

I sometimes feel like this attitude is more strongly felt by some people in a community where there is freedom to take a project in another direction if they desired (I know that not everyone has this option).

I do think however that the article of this thread expresses their opinion on an issue in a way that it explains how it effects them without resorting to emotional attacks towards the project and it's something I really liked about reading it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by eitland »

albertzeyer wrote: post #16

You will find lots of such examples of a feature which you personally find very important and wonder why such a simple thing is not supported yet. I guess everyone has such examples. And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. For me personally, I wonder why mouse wheel/scroll acceleration is still not implemented. I implemented it a while ago for Xorg, which is outdated now, and also the maintainer w…

> And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows.

If anyone wonders, here are three from Mac last I used it:

- fn took the place of ctrl on the laptop (but not the full keyboard). Unlike on Dell and Lenovo who also has this problem it could not be remapped neither at boot nor in the OS.

- CMD - tab forced me to think ahead of time if I want to change to the last application or the last window of the same application. I.e. switching between two Safari instances takes a different key combination than switching between Safari and IntelliJ.

- modifier keys worked differently between applications, e.g. selecting to the end of a word was either ctrl-shift, alt-shift or CMD-shift depending on application.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by circularfoyers »

amlib wrote: post #419
snvzz wrote: post #27

There's more serious reasons this file picker is broken. Here's a trivial to reproduce and obvious issue that's been there for several years now: 1. Open a directory that loads slowly (e.g. one with thousands of files on a smb3 mount) 2. While the list is loading, select a file (but do not open it) 3. Wait for the whole list to load Once the list finishes loading, the file on the very top of the list gets automatical…

The gnome file picker is so bad that I will pretty much always load files by drag and droping files into the application from a file browser!

This is pretty much how I've resorted to solving the issue for myself as well. It's a shame when I personally like GNOME in most other ways.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by dschuetz »

> This is why Free desktop operating systems are a joke and haven’t been popularly adopted. It’s little things like this that add up.

That's it. That sums up what's wrong with the Linux desktop. It's the little annoying, arbitrary and broken things. It's that constant denial (the 2 decades old GNOME bug report is the perfect example), that it's not broken, people are just using it wrong mentality among Linux desktop developers that breaks Linux desktop.

I know, desktop is hard. I know we should be thankful to GNOME developers no matter what. I am thankful! I just don't want to use their broken software anymore. GNOME is dead to me since a decade. I just could not appreciate it as much as I wished to.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by wander_homer »

sli wrote: post #330
williamscales wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, I definitely don’t have _any_ previews in the GTK filepicker. I specifically had to open the Files application just this week so I could identify which screenshot I wanted to upload in Firefox. I guess I have a different bug happening _in addition_ to what the article is talking about. Lovely.

The image preview only works when the file picker is using the list view.

No, the issue is that an application needs to implement the preview widget and add it to the GTK file picker, hence this work needs to be duplicated by every application and of course most applications don't do that. But if the application adds a preview widget it should work regardless of which view mode is active.

Edit: Also the new GTK API for file pickers to work better with sandboxing and platform integration, lacks the ability to add preview widgets altogether.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by eitland »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #320
kiwidrew wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this exact issue frustrates me to no end. Another related issue: when saving something from Firefox, the file picker opens into _a random directory_ each time. Like maybe 50% of the time, it will be the most-recently-used directory, but the rest of the time it is a random directory that I had saved something to at some point in the distant past. It boggles the mind how these bugs can persist for years upon years…

I believe they are not random at all. I haven't dug into it, but I've seen similar behavior here, and my impression is that Firefox stores an association between some or all of the URL host component and the most-recently-save-to location. If you saved something from http://foo.bar.com/ to /whatever in the past, future visits-and-saves to *.bar.com (or maybe just foo.bar.com) will use /whatever as the default locatio…

The joys of modern ux where everything is supposed to be so intuitive that no manual, help file or getting started guide is needed.

To achieve this features and configuration options are removed left and right.

Now we have half the software, no manual and often it still confuses users :-)

Edit: and I don't have a good, inexpensive solution to it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Zardoz84 »

What I find more a pain in the ass of the GtkFileChooser, it's that I can't type the path. It's very annoying, when you need to jump to a path that you have on the clipboard and you can't, and you are forced to navigate to these path because the removed a simple text field to puth the path. The equivalent from QT/KDE does this far better. It allows the user to switch from the graphical "user friendly" path representation to a crude text field where you can write/removed/modify/copy/paste the path.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by arpa »

baybal2 wrote: post #255
skrap wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/2366 ? It really bothers me as well.

> Free software development is not a democracy, and does not get driven by polls. Features and bugs are introduced by those who show up, within a community that works towards a shared goal. And it is exactly to let themselves yell that, they work hard to alienate few normal devs left in the project. I understood now that Gnome 3.0 was from the start Redhat's fully intentional attempt to appropriate the project, and i…

Screw Red Hat, the amound of crapware and bad attitudes coming from them is astounding. And of course, since they have big bucks, it gets shoved down everyones' throats.
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