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St. Benedict’s Rule for Monasteries (516)

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Post by peapicker »

samatman wrote: post #58
jimktrains2 wrote: post #44

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You have to boil the water which does in order to make beer and wine (and spirits).

Beer (wort, at this stage) is heated before fermentation, normally not boiled but enough to kill bacteria. Wine is normally made from pure juice, and isn't heated at any point in the process. But again, it's made from pure juice: the inside of a grape is not a usual place to find dangerous bacteria, and on the outside one would normally find only the yeasts which produce the fermentation. Modern wine-making washes th…

As one who has brewed beer for 27 years now, wort is definitely brought to a boil at the beginning of a brew to cause the ‘hot break’ proteins to coagulate. The wort is then held at a low boil or near boiling for 45-60 min after the bittering hops are added as those temperatures most efficiently allow the alpha acids from the lupulin glands of the hops to enter solution.

Grape juice for wine, as it can’t be heated without ruining it, is usually lightly sulphited for a day or three before adding yeast, which kills the bacteria present in the juice.

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Post by jxramos »

lionsdan wrote: post #74
jxramos wrote: post #66

Does anyone know if there's something on par with Standard Ebooks quality and "remastering scrutiny" with a focus for old religious books like the above? > Major religious texts from modern world religions, like the Bible or the Koran, will not be accepted. Texts about religion will usually be accepted. Texts from historical religious movements that were culturally influential but are now defunct, or are otherwise no…

The Christian Classics Ethereal Library ( https://ccel.org ) versions are pretty decent and in a variety of formats. Rule of St. Benedict is at https://ccel.org/ccel/benedict/rule/rule

Great find! This Theological Markup Language (ThML) seems pretty interesting. https://ccel.org/ThML/index.html

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Post by ta988 »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #44
ta988 wrote: post #32

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Alcohol concentration would not be enough to kill cholera... Especially diluted. Strongest wines are usually in the 15-17% alcohol...

You have to boil the water which does in order to make beer and wine (and spirits).

If you boil the water then you can just use your boiled water... I hope your wine isn't made with added water though.

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Post by JackFr »

geerlingguy wrote: post #65
jkepler wrote: post #43

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Amazing how form and freedom aren't antithetical, but are actually part and parcel of true liberty.

It's a strange paradox, but one that I've found time and again; 'liberty' to do anything anytime can be much more restrictive than 'freedom' to choose one thing and then move on.

https://youtu.be/GqmsQeSzMdw

Liberties constrain, constraints liberate.

The things we can lear from programming language theory!

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Post by Stratoscope »

Thorentis wrote: post #76
galaxyLogic wrote: post #49

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Trappists make great beer right? It is strong beer and gets your head messed up. I've often wondered how such good religious folks would become producers of alcoholic drinks. I assume they didn't drink themselves, doesn't go well with meditation I assume. So are they more like thinking "Let the sinners drink this since they want, and it will pay for the rent of our meditation chambers?"

There is no issue with alcohol in Catholicism. Indeed, some during the middle ages would live off beer alone during Lent, when they would abstain from food entirely. It is simply a question of moderation. There are many medevial images of monks drinking. "In Catholicsm, the Pint, the Pipe, and the Cross can all fit together." ~ GK Chesterton.

Indeed, when I was a kid, I learned that when the parish priest stopped by our home, we always offered him a shot of whiskey.

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Post by science4sail »

From Chapter 3

> Whenever any important business has to be done in the monastery, let the Abbot call together the whole community and state the matter to be acted upon. Then, having heard the brethren’s advice, let him turn the matter over in his own mind and do what he shall judge to be most expedient. The reason we have said that all should be called for counsel is that the Lord often reveals to the younger what is best.

> But if the business to be done in the interests of the monastery be of lesser importance, let him take counsel with the seniors only. It is written, “Do everything with counsel, and you will not repent when you have done it.”

This is certainly an interesting take on "new hires bring fresh new ideas."

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Post by philsnow »

sharpneli wrote: post #15
zinekeller wrote: post #9

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Info for those outside of Germany: https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html

Whoa. They basically claim jurisdiction on any content based on the language it’s in.

Germany isn't the only country that speaks German...

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

bodegajed wrote: post #78
jchallis wrote: post #20

Atheist fan speaking up for Benedict and his rule. My education was entirely organized by Benedictine nuns who internalized this rule and lived it daily. The focus on the importance of daily discipline made a big impression on me. Like the military, see an organization make short term sacrifices for longer term objectives made a big impression on me and how I spend my time. Ora et labora.

Yeah the benedictine life is cool with me. I consider my self as non-religious and I follow some aspects of Asceticism like abstaining from eating meat and just content with simple pleasures like playing the guitar and doing arts. I also removed my self from social media. I always work and don't take holidays. I'm done with life based on consumerism

> removed my self from social media

I would have said that HN is social media; in your view, is the distinction that you don't post things to a personal timeline here? (Certainly even seeing HN as social media I wouldn't mind treating it as a special case)

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

ta988 wrote: post #83
jimktrains2 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to boil the water which does in order to make beer and wine (and spirits).

If you boil the water then you can just use your boiled water... I hope your wine isn't made with added water though.

That's obvious now, but was it obvious then? I'm pretty sure even germ theory is a "recent" discovery.
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