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Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Not everyone right of Biden is a nazi.

And not everyone "right of Biden" is being deplatformed, unless you think everyone right of center is on Parler. Parler is a cesspool of hate groups and conspiracy theories, many of them Nazi or Nazi adjacent.

By any objective measurement, Twitter is more of a hate speech and conspiracy theory cesspool.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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The way this forum was purged from the internet is making me uncomfortable. I never used Parler, and I really don't care about the fact that it's gone. But the way that a handful of private companies effectively decides who gets to reach an audience and who doesn't is deeply troubling. We're increasingly becoming a world where what is and isn't allowed in the public sphere is controlled by a handful of corporate lead…

nazis should not have platforms and private enterprise is well within its rights to decide that this time they will side against the fascists instead of making the completion of the holocaust more efficient, like they did last time.

i understand the form of this argument, but parler was literally a place where the primary purpose was to discuss how to rid america of people like me. i don’t know why my existence is up for negotiation in society.

whatever parler’s initial intent it became primarily a place for disaffected right wing radicalization up to and including advocating the eradication of my family from the earth.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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The way this forum was purged from the internet is making me uncomfortable. I never used Parler, and I really don't care about the fact that it's gone. But the way that a handful of private companies effectively decides who gets to reach an audience and who doesn't is deeply troubling. We're increasingly becoming a world where what is and isn't allowed in the public sphere is controlled by a handful of corporate lead…

What exactly prevents them from setting up their own servers in a cold room somewhere?

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Everybody was not an asshole for the two years this existed and suddenly became one a mere week ago. Strange, innit?

Prior to a week ago, there hadn't been an attack against the US Capitol planned on the app while the owners defend the right of the planners to use it for that purpose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It should be expected that when historically unprecedented things happen, people's viewpoints change.

Trump can organize another attack on the next platform his followers migrate to. Will you ban that we well? What makes you think platforms are the problem and not the actual person that started it? Do you think with the ban of this platform the problem has been fixed?

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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I’m sure their benefactors will happily fork over a few million for some machines and space in a datacenter.

The problem is that they don’t have many benefactors. Rich right wingers don’t throw money into a toxic hole.

Ironically, if they did have moderation so it was just a Twitter with /r/conservative people and not the_donald people, it might be successful. BUT, if it was - it wouldn’t be necessary in the first place! Those people can just use Twitter!

Twitter’s moderation is so permissive that the only thing left outside is going to be toxic.

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Common sense and arbitrary decisions. If you’re making this point you’re a bad faith actor.

Can you explain how I'm a bad faith actor.

Because the literal definition of fascism is far-right and authoritarian.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Can you explain how I'm a bad faith actor.

Because the literal definition of fascism is far-right and authoritarian.

Here are some definitions of fascism:

"forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism"

"violent suppression of the opposition"

The business owner in the video has said the Antifa group has retaliated against his business by smashing their windows and causing destruction to other business for sending a letter to the Mayor.

Victoria Beach from the African-American community relations says in the video "if you don't agree with them they're going to attack you in some way, in a group, not one on one. They are cowards and we aren't going to take it".

According to the literal definition they are fascists.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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I don’t think the goal of banning these folks is to change the banned person’s mind. It’s to slow down the spread of the banned person’s rhetoric. To your suggestion that folks who witness the ban take place suspecting “there’s something afoot”, while that could be right, I’d bet that’s a much smaller number than the number of folks who would’ve otherwise seen the rhetoric and came around to agreeing with it, if not…

Censoring ISIS beheading and recruiting videos was effective. Any resentment or suspicion of censorship was far more than offset by the reduction in reach. Suppressing incitement to violence along with the recruitment, training and organization of violent actors is essential.

You don't actually know that. Clearly, ISIS didn't need YouTube to spread. It conquered large parts of Syria and was defeated via military means. Plenty of ISIS sympathisers turned up in the west later, but I don't recall reading about many that were radicalised by watching YouTube. Normally they'd either been to Syria, or it was local mosques.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Not everyone right of Biden is a nazi.

And not everyone "right of Biden" is being deplatformed, unless you think everyone right of center is on Parler. Parler is a cesspool of hate groups and conspiracy theories, many of them Nazi or Nazi adjacent.

I checked it out yesterday. It had Maria Bartiromo on it, along with many other American conservative commentators. She's not exactly at Nazi.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Solution is pretty simple, called Constitution of the United States.

The Constitution gives a format for making decisions and living with them when we don't agree. It's not really for finding common ground. That's up to us.

you don't need common ground Constitution is common ground. what are problem of just following the Constitution. Democrats and Republican abolish Constitution that is a problem.
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