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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by ubercow13 »

userbinator wrote: post #175

Windows' file picker is actually an almost fully-featured Explorer instance, and is easily accessible from any application with a single function call. The "loose components" model that a lot of OSS seems to follow means that things like this require more effort, despite the fact that GNOME is supposed to be an integrated environment. What’s the point of doing a whole upgrade of the GTK toolkit while ignoring this pr…

>The "loose components" model that a lot of OSS seems to follow means that things like this require more effort, despite the fact that GNOME is supposed to be an integrated environment.

It seems like the opposite. It's the tight integration of the toolkit with applications that causes this issue. If there was loose integration between the file picker and the application and its toolkit, like with the newer xdg-deskop-portal protocol, it would be simpler for someone to create a better file picker witout risking breaking anything else, and for applications to be made to use it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by chrisseaton »

Kwpolska wrote: post #232
chrisseaton wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Alternatively hold Option when opening the Edit menu. This doesn't change the Edit menu for me. Does it work for you today on latest macOS?

It does change the Edit menu in Finder on Big Sur.

Well doesn't for me - strange. It does change 'copy' to 'copy as pathname' though.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by still_grokking »

As a KDE user I wouldn't care what the Gnome people do if their BS wouldn't affect me. But it does, and it's annoying!

They refuse since over a decade to implement some generic way to open the file-picker native to the running DE. They force their garbage usability on everybody, even people that would prefer not to use "anything Gnome". Same issue with CSDs, by the way.

Like I said: They can have their broken stuff at their place if they prefer it like that. But it's utterly antisocial to force that stuff on everybody without any opt-out possibility. They even actively and deliberately break and remove configuration options. That's just not OK.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by dm319 »

kaszanka wrote: post #105
enriquto wrote: post #76

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Even worse is when you know the exact file name that you want to open, and the interface fights against you writing it! For example I want to open /tmp/a.png, but there's thousands of files on /tmp and the cursor disappears while "loading" them, and and some characters of the file name are lost, or typed on different parts of the interface.

Recursive search instead of type-ahead search within one directory in the file picker is criminally terrible. I don't think there is any implementation of a file picker that behaves like this (other than Gtk's).

Yup - one of the many reasons I needed to stay on MATE.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by barrkel »

This is why I use bash for almost all filesystem operations across all desktop operating systems.

I don't deal with image files on disk, mind. I use various media databases to handle those (and audio and video) with tagging, timestamps, previews, thumbnails etc. in a dedicated UI.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Zren »

corty wrote: post #107
heavyset_go wrote: post #70

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> Firefox on KDE uses the GTK filepicker. No thumbnails. Not if you set the GTK_USE_PORTAL environment variable. $ GTK_USE_PORTAL=1 firefox The above will make Firefox use the KDE filepicker.

So they say. But I could never get that to work, with KDE/Plasma the dialog just never shows up.

Did you install the KDE portal and restart the portal process? When I initially tested it the gtk portal was installed so it used that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGHnVF_WWls

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by benlivengood »

snvzz wrote: post #27

There's more serious reasons this file picker is broken. Here's a trivial to reproduce and obvious issue that's been there for several years now: 1. Open a directory that loads slowly (e.g. one with thousands of files on a smb3 mount) 2. While the list is loading, select a file (but do not open it) 3. Wait for the whole list to load Once the list finishes loading, the file on the very top of the list gets automatical…

GUIs should effectively be finite state machines and people expect them to operate that way. People understand latency and get used to it; it happened on mainframes and other terminal applications and people memorize the state machine and can tab and type through an interface at high throughput anyway.

One of the most frustrating experiences is related to the OP; reflow in browsers as new elements load making it impossible to click on the right thing until the whole page finishes loading. Popups are also nearly as bad but maybe less avoidable.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by dm319 »

nightfly wrote: post #81
acgkmopvvgvmgv wrote: post #31

Pretty sure 99% of regular people would be happy if there was a desktop with GNOME 2 feature parity but with a good Wayland compositor and probably some modern features that would come from that (multimonitor, VRR, ...). I just can't understand how anyone could defend GNOME 3. Their own staff have to use extensions (that break every update), even Fedora (!!!) has to patch GNOME packages now. They kept fighting that t…

Have you looked at MATE? https://mate-desktop.org/

I've been using MATE with the arc theme for years now. It feels very modern, and the interface is remarkably refined.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by edoceo »

for_xyz wrote: post #226
ju-st wrote: post #186

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The Windows folder chooser dialogue has this problem as well.

Old one yes. New one (since win vista) allows you to pick folders. pFileOpen->SetOptions(FOS_PICKFOLDERS | FOS_PATHMUSTEXIST | FOS_ALLOWMULTISELECT); https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/shobjidl_...

IME users aren't doing a lot of C

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by josephg »

whatever1 wrote: post #112

Linux was always a Terminal-first OS. The UI efforts never came close to the depth that MacOS and Windows have. Take for example the scaling issue. It has been now almost half a decade with 4k Displays, and Linux still does not know how to deal with it other than 100% or 200%. Currently Linux is unusable for anyone with a modern display. I appreciate the work that all the contributors put -for free- in projects like…

I use two monitors on linux mint with cinnamon. One is a 4k display, and the other a normal display. Display scaling works fine - but once enabled I get a weird bug where I can see a duplicate, frozen mouse cursor on my screen based on where the mouse was in the login prompt. And it hovers on top of all other windows. Somehow the mouse cursor bug is related to the HiDPI scaling options.

I've learned to just use the downstairs toilet. I move the mouse to the bottom right corner of the screen before I log in.

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