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Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by _y5hn »

Traster wrote: post #92
someelephant wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about we attempt to understand why people are thinking this way. Why are they not interested in thinking your way? What can be done to help both side talk and solve problems together?

I think you should go to one of these forums - parler or gab, currently /r/conspiracy, or one of the similar. Try to have a reasoned conversation with them. I really genuinely want more people to do that. Because when you do that you very quickly start to understand there is no reason. On the 5th of January, you would've heard them loudly preach that the 6th will be the "reckoning" the "true patriots" would "rise up"…

Sounds like a sort of social psychosis, lead by psychopaths in lead positions, or anonymous anarchy. Point being humans experience pleasure at such fantastical thinking, especially when validated in a group setting, even online. In the beginning this can be powerful feelings, though more like addiction and craving over time.

Anyways, that was a brief attempt to grok "crazytalk".

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by FlyMoreRockets »

rsynnott wrote: post #50

I’m sure their benefactors will happily fork over a few million for some machines and space in a datacenter.

So you are saying Trump or Addleson or the Koch brothers should invest in the service.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by simonh »

sto_hristo wrote: post #86
baggachipz wrote: post #10

> "They made an attempt to not only kill the app, but to actually destroy the entire company. And it’s not just these three companies. Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day." If everybody else is an asshole, maybe you're the asshole.

Everybody was not an asshole for the two years this existed and suddenly became one a mere week ago. Strange, innit?

They almost certainly were assholes the whole time, it’s just that very recently they proved they were not just assholes but murderous treasonous ones in action in a way that removed all reasonable doubt.

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Post by JCharante »

dazoot wrote: post #29

I’d hate to be in his position right now. Business wise, i hope they have backups and hire people for moderation.

I believe that in AWS's statement they said that they would help them retain their data. I'm sure it just means that after midnight their S3 and RDS services are going read only until they're done taking their data out. Maybe make a final backup of their databases and put it in a bucket.

I'd be a bit more disturbed if AWS was going to remove read access after midnight.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by _y5hn »

FlyMoreRockets wrote: post #138
Fjolsvith wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are kinda overlooking the fact that we haven't had the war yet.

If we use the wisdom history provides, we don't need to have the war.

Wisdom may go beyond just banning everything "we" don't like. That gets old after a while.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by dredmorbius »

Speculation: A coordinated action including of legal services strongly suggests to me that the vendors themselves have pressure applied, most likely being an ongoing federal law enforcement/security operation. The smell of this goes beyond the business community suddenly deciding Parler is an utterly dispicable organisation.

This also raises the question of what heat is now being applied to Parler's backers, notably billionaires Robert and Rebekah Mercer.

See from November 15, 2020, "Conservatives Flock To Mercer-Funded Parler, Claim Censorship On Facebook And Twitter"

https://text.npr.org/934833214

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25097145

Meet Rebekah Mercer, the deep-pocketed co-founder of Parler, a controversial conservative social network

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/15/media/rebekah-mercer-parler/i...

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by jfengel »

WannaFly wrote: post #97
someelephant wrote: post #32

The sad thing is a platform does nothing to help us find common ground and move past the chaos which has overtaken discourse. What is the solution here?

Solution is pretty simple, called Constitution of the United States.

The Constitution gives a format for making decisions and living with them when we don't agree. It's not really for finding common ground. That's up to us.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by dredmorbius »

manfredo wrote: post #96

The way this forum was purged from the internet is making me uncomfortable. I never used Parler, and I really don't care about the fact that it's gone. But the way that a handful of private companies effectively decides who gets to reach an audience and who doesn't is deeply troubling. We're increasingly becoming a world where what is and isn't allowed in the public sphere is controlled by a handful of corporate lead…

If sedition and insurrection are being planned, advocated, and organised on your site and you continuously claim it's no big deal, you might find yourself with legal and national security concerns and pressures, and not merely business partner TOU/AUP prroblems.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Post by LatteLazy »

j8hn wrote: post #122
LatteLazy wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(not the person you replied to) I think its almost the inverse: if there were 1m comments on Facebook/Twitter about it, they're among 1trn other comments on Facebook/twitter. If there 100k comments on parler, that's 10 times less. But there are only 100k (edit: 250k) comments on parler total and they're often about violently defending trumps "victory".

But the point is where was most of the planning for violence done? I realize you're not being literal about all the comments centered around violence on Parler. Or maybe you are? Are you saying most of the comments there are violent or a good number of them?

Sorry, I should have picked better numbers. I'm just saying many of the comments, I won't pretend I know "most" let alone all.

It's too late to stop the violence that's already happened. That's cheap and I don't like it but it's true sadly. There are real questions to be asked why the FBI weren't all over this from day 1. They need to be asked because it's (literally) their job to prevent this.

Im just suggesting really that we make the system work as it's meant to: FBI investigates, people plotting violence are intercepted before they commit it. Even if they are right wing nuts.

Im also pretty convinced parler isn't "responsible" in the sense that if it didn't exist there wouldn't have been violence (that doesn't excuse them for profiting off it). It would have been coordinate on r/TheDonald or via Facebook or twitter or wherever. Parler wasn't even a thing for most of the last 4 years and this has been brewing at least that long in my opinion. That's actually why I would like the idea of prevention. Banning parler gives us all an excuse to go back to sleep till next time and then (again) say "how did this happen?".

Thanks for listing to my rant!

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