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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

carlosrg wrote: post #169
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not cut-and-paste. That's copy and some weird modified paste that, as far as I'm aware, doesn't exist anywhere else. Why completely break the existing convention?

>the existing convention It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. And yes, it's effectively the same as cut and paste.

Do you not think that it's terrible UX, to have cmd+x followed by cmd+v for cut and paste in some places and cmd+c followed by option+cmd+v for cut and paste in others?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Rusky »

cesarb wrote: post #162
tomsmeding wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And Firefox has this weird issue that now and then a newly opened tab doesn't focus the address bar, forcing me to use the mouse to select it. I'm not sure I have this issue, but ctrl-L (or equivalently, ctrl-K) focuses the address bar. Less mouse usage.

If you keep them separate (it's configurable), Ctrl-L focuses the address bar, Ctrl-K focuses the search bar. I don't know how these keys behave if you configure it to use a single combined address/search bar (I've always kept them separate).

When combined, Ctrl-K focuses the address bar with a `? ` prepended, which turns it into a search bar. (In the most recent version it replaces the `?` with the name of the default search engine, similar to Chrome.)

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Shared404 »

jdright wrote: post #156
swebs wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least enough people care that its become a meme in some tech communities. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/File_Picker_meme

Yes, and Gnome is in part responsible for a lot of "desktop" issues with linux. Distros must switch to KDE by default to help eliminate part of this stigma. KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

> there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

Don't know that I agree there.

I actually really like GNOME's workflow on laptop, especially with Pop OS's extensions.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by userbinator »

Windows' file picker is actually an almost fully-featured Explorer instance, and is easily accessible from any application with a single function call. The "loose components" model that a lot of OSS seems to follow means that things like this require more effort, despite the fact that GNOME is supposed to be an integrated environment.

What’s the point of doing a whole upgrade of the GTK toolkit while ignoring this problem?

An unfortunate consequence of the incessant trendchasing that has taken hold of the software industry, closed and open source alike. Frankly, I am as puzzled as the article author how solving existing problems is somehow shunned in favour of ignoring them and making "new things"... which usually tends to just create more new problems instead. No one seems to value stability and the strive toward perfection anymore. This phenomenon has been ascribed to "resume driven development", but I'm not sure if that is completely responsible for it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by hadrien01 »

jancsika wrote: post #114

Somebody in Gnome did an awesome thing and I want to know who it was: If I open my laptop after being logged in, I can just start typing my password and the login manager does the right thing: "Hey, he's probably typing a password. Let's throw it into the password widget and see what happens..." I'm on an XPS running Ubuntu 20.04. Who implemented that feature? It's a great ergonomic feature and improves the UX of log…

I love that feature! My work computer runs Windows and I need to press enter or space before typing my password (and because of that sometimes I type a space in my password on GNOME)

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by ncmncm »

p1necone wrote: post #82

Aren't there plenty of little UX niggles in macOS/windows just like this that haven't been fixed for years either? I'm not sure why this is being used as a reason why "Free desktop operating systems are a joke". I think "use KDE" is perfectly valid advice here too. The toilet analogy doesn't really hold, your satisfaction of software that works for you shouldn't be at all affected by the existence of software you don…

There are overwhelmingly many such contempties in Apple and MS systems. Not more, but different and disabling. Apple and MS don't try to present the illusion that what they build is for your benefit. People know they are Big Corporations that care less-than-nothing for you or me, or our wants or needs, and that it is only by luck when we can get them to do anything at all.

It is the imagined promise that Free Software is done for our benefit that lends us the delusion that things should be the way we want them.

In fact, Free Software things are much more likely to actually work, in the way that somebody wants, than Apple's or MS's. Just, not you. In the case of Apple and MS, there is typically no living individual who wants it to do what it does, but changing it would require initiative whose attempt at exercise would severely punished.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by thedanbob »

jancsika wrote: post #114

Somebody in Gnome did an awesome thing and I want to know who it was: If I open my laptop after being logged in, I can just start typing my password and the login manager does the right thing: "Hey, he's probably typing a password. Let's throw it into the password widget and see what happens..." I'm on an XPS running Ubuntu 20.04. Who implemented that feature? It's a great ergonomic feature and improves the UX of log…

KDE does the same and I love it too. Windows doesn’t, which always trips me up every time I have to use it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by chrisseaton »

carlosrg wrote: post #169
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not cut-and-paste. That's copy and some weird modified paste that, as far as I'm aware, doesn't exist anywhere else. Why completely break the existing convention?

>the existing convention It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. And yes, it's effectively the same as cut and paste.

> It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention.

I think the point is this doesn't match the convention in the rest of the macOS. A convention of one is a poor convention!

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by nl »

enriquto wrote: post #67
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Terminals are probably never again going to be the primary computing interface for most people.

> Terminals are probably never again going to be the primary computing interface for most people. So what? Neither are desktops! The question is that the total number of terminal users is certainly increasing year after year.

> the total number of terminal users is certainly increasing year after year

Perhaps, but the proportion of them is certainly decreasing (especially if we include devices like tablets and phones in "computing interfaces").

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