They should be able to find a cloud provider in Russia
keep those SSNs coming.
Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business
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#62At this point they need to go build your own modern internet.
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#63> "They made an attempt to not only kill the app, but to actually destroy the entire company. And it’s not just these three companies. Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day." If everybody else is an asshole, maybe you're the asshole.
Yet Galileo was indefinitely imprisoned for denying a geocentric model of the universe, which Everyone Knew to be True. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair
The point is that the majority is often wrong, and consensus does not confer virtue.
(I am deliberately making no remark on this instance; I am speaking purely of the underlying principle.)
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#64The cartels are all acting in unison.
Private companies just want to act in their best interest. Call it what you will, no one wants to be associated with them; and as such they get removed. Amazon, Google, Facebook, et.al. owe Parler exactly nothing.
I was just pointing out that these very powerful companies, some are claimed to be monopolies are acting in unison which can be argued seems like cartel behavior.
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#65And yet they are still online (edit: looks like they'll be online with AWS until 1159 PCT, my mistake) I am pretty sure that coordinated withdrawal of services like this would amount to Tortious Interference wouldn't it? Given Parler/Foxx's pentant for exaggeration and playing the victim I'm a little incredulous to be honest. I don't like censorship or support it. Parler should stay, for all its issues. But that does…
is it coordinated or is everyone just sick of them? their lawyers left too, they are not part of some silicon valley cabal
It's becoming obvious that the capital was stormed by crazies largely organized on the platform. It's coordinated in a way by companies realizing it's an enormous legal and political liability to have a relationship to them
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes fascists should be refused by everyone. It’s in everyone’s interests to have more customers so this works itself out through game theory.
Let's take away everything from fascists. Then they have nothing left to lose.
Ok. I mean... they had the presidncy and apparently that wasn't enough. One thing you have to reckon with is the fact that the people leading this movement have everything and are still trying to overthrow the government. There is barely a person on earth who is materially more comfortable than DT. It didn't stop him doing this. So I don't really see why the idea of fascists having nothing would be more scary than well resourced fascists.
Donald Trump with no resources is 'old man yells at cloud' rather than '5 dead at the capitol'.
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#67Parler may have just ended its own business, I think. They should have pivoted to be a free speech alternative to sensible conservatives, with sensible moderation, and market their product as such. As it is, no one wants to do business with a company that openly allows neo-nazis, anti-semites, and lately, criminals, on their platform, and no one with a brain would even want to be on such a platform.
I'm open to a Twitter alternative that is lenient on conservative views, as long as it has the right sort of moderation. And I really hope this alternative learns from Parler's mistakes.
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#68"our lawyers all ditched us"
That pretty much should tell you this is not a free speech issue... your service is just a shit business no one wants to be associated with. BYEE
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#69How far should this go? Should banks refuse to service employees? Grocery stores? Gas stations? They are private businesses, they have no reason to tolerate people who are thinking the wrong way.
In general I think we all should be free to associate or do business with whoever we choose. That should be the default position. There may have to be some exceptions where available options are limited for crucial services. I’m trying to avoid using the word Monopoly because it’s bandied about so much inappropriately, but some services are so essential and providers are so limited that we should probably expect them to be provided to anyone making a legal request for access.
Those are specific circumstances though and I don’t think any of these - law firms, internet hosting, etc reach that threshold.
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#70Good. We should not tolerate the intolerant.
How about we attempt to understand why people are thinking this way. Why are they not interested in thinking your way? What can be done to help both side talk and solve problems together?
It is impossible. Especially for the far right and far left. Go into subreddits just to see the difference. I used to think like that too, and then seeing the actual reality its just disappointing. When Trump said that he can shoot someone at 5th avenue and his supporters will support him, that's real.
Thankfully majority of people are not far left far right, but center.