I wonder if anybody has asked Parler if they agree with Trump's position on Section 230. Trump wants to peel back the liability shield 230 provides.
Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business
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#52How far should this go? Should banks refuse to service employees? Grocery stores? Gas stations? They are private businesses, they have no reason to tolerate people who are thinking the wrong way.
Yes fascists should be refused by everyone. It’s in everyone’s interests to have more customers so this works itself out through game theory.
Great Idea! Until someone calls you a Fascist.
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#53Good. We should not tolerate the intolerant.
Agreed, and for further reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's take away everything from fascists. Then they have nothing left to lose.
Yes. Then they lash out and then there is a reckoning. This is ideal.
They're fascists, they're planning to lash out anyway. At least let's maybe make things slightly more difficult for them. Or even slightly less comfortable.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about we attempt to understand why people are thinking this way. Why are they not interested in thinking your way? What can be done to help both side talk and solve problems together?
No. The time has passed when it crossed into violence. We should do here what the Germans did to Nazi groups after the war. Ban them.
You are kinda overlooking the fact that we haven't had the war yet.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean you can't run a site with no censorship where people are openly plotting the violent takeover of the us government and/or violent events. It is just a liability issue. This isn't some kind of censorship issue, that just isn't legal and never has been legal.
The great irony here is Parler DOES engage in loads of censorship (no parody, no Pro-Cannabis comments, no positive antifa comments, I don't think you can even be left wing on there). So I'm stuck defending a censorous site against censorship!? I am a weirdo, because a public site like Parler is exactly where I hope insurrection should be planned. Why wasn't the FBI ready to swoop and arrest actual violent people giv…
I think widespread suppression of information about this planned protest would've mattered, but I don't think it was justified before the events at the capitol. Now I think it is a clear and easily foreseeable risk to allow this to continue.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought the free markets could do whatever they want? Funny how this works, isn't it.
I didn't say free markets could do whatever they wanted. Also, wanted to point out that snarky comments are against the guidelines here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
>I didn't say free markets could do whatever they wanted.
So you agree they are allowed to do as they please. What is your issue then?
>Also, wanted to point out that snarky comments are against the guidelines here.
You call the tech companies cartels, and I'm the one against guidelines? Makes sense....
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#58There’s something very ironic about Parler—-which kicks users off its platform for espousing liberal ideology—-whining about being kicked off other platforms.
From their own TOS:
> "Parler may remove any content and terminate your access to the Services at any time and for any reason or no reason“
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#59> "They made an attempt to not only kill the app, but to actually destroy the entire company. And it’s not just these three companies. Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day." If everybody else is an asshole, maybe you're the asshole.
Said the church to the scientist. Said the mob to the witch. Be careful about where this goes. This one doesn't affect you and I, but the next one might. It certainly will when it gets to HN or Signal. But then it'll be too late. First they came for...
Ehhh I've looked at parler out of curiosity. Basically full of hate, conspiracy, calls for violence, blatant racism "kill blacks" type stuff.
I'm amazed companies were willing to work with them in the first place. Providing services to a company like that is like providing service to the KKK
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#60It will eventually be like this anyway. Nothing is preventing them from building stuffs themselves. Even if they and Trump build their own platform, they will have to build their own bare metal server clusters and scatter those across USA. Not to mention they will have to hire and pay actual market salary from DevOps, backend developers, frontend developers, UX designer, testing engineer, security engineer etc. In th…
In the West, the communications infrastructure will cut you off anyway. You can go elsewhere which has its own set of problems.