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Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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post #3

Good. We should not tolerate the intolerant.

How about we attempt to understand why people are thinking this way. Why are they not interested in thinking your way? What can be done to help both side talk and solve problems together?

Mutual understanding is a great idea. It is outside the job expectations of the people pulling the plug on their technical infrastructure.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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post #26

How far should this go? Should banks refuse to service employees? Grocery stores? Gas stations? They are private businesses, they have no reason to tolerate people who are thinking the wrong way.

In what sense are big banks private businesses?

Banks, especially the big ones, will always be bailed out in a crisis. We've just had a demonstration about a decade ago.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes fascists should be refused by everyone. It’s in everyone’s interests to have more customers so this works itself out through game theory.

Let's take away everything from fascists. Then they have nothing left to lose.

Yes. Then they lash out and then there is a reckoning. This is ideal.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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post #3

Good. We should not tolerate the intolerant.

How about we attempt to understand why people are thinking this way. Why are they not interested in thinking your way? What can be done to help both side talk and solve problems together?

No. The time has passed when it crossed into violence. We should do here what the Germans did to Nazi groups after the war. Ban them.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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post #15

And yet they are still online (edit: looks like they'll be online with AWS until 1159 PCT, my mistake) I am pretty sure that coordinated withdrawal of services like this would amount to Tortious Interference wouldn't it? Given Parler/Foxx's pentant for exaggeration and playing the victim I'm a little incredulous to be honest. I don't like censorship or support it. Parler should stay, for all its issues. But that does…

I mean you can't run a site with no censorship where people are openly plotting the violent takeover of the us government and/or violent events. It is just a liability issue. This isn't some kind of censorship issue, that just isn't legal and never has been legal.

The great irony here is Parler DOES engage in loads of censorship (no parody, no Pro-Cannabis comments, no positive antifa comments, I don't think you can even be left wing on there).

So I'm stuck defending a censorous site against censorship!?

I am a weirdo, because a public site like Parler is exactly where I hope insurrection should be planned. Why wasn't the FBI ready to swoop and arrest actual violent people given they were posting their plans in plane view? Why are we relying on AWS to moderate away trumps lies and fix the US Political landscape?

To me, killing parler (for all its shit-ness), is a perfect example of "we have to do something, and this is something".

Does anyone actually think that if Parler had gone offline 4 weeks ago, the events of the last week would have been different? They'd have planned on twitter or Facebook or reddit or wherever.

When can we solve the actual problems here (failure to deal with trump, a poor relationship with the truth for all politicians, law enforcement complete lack of interest in right wing threats, lack of basic security etc)?

Censoring random websites seems like farting in a Jucuzzi, censorship is almost always a way of ignoring actual problems while pretending you are acting. And here we are again.

Sorry, its late here in the UK and I'm ranting. Thanks for reading.

Re: Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

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post #35

> "They made an attempt to not only kill the app, but to actually destroy the entire company. And it’s not just these three companies. Every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too on the same day." If everybody else is an asshole, maybe you're the asshole.

Said the church to the scientist. Said the mob to the witch. Be careful about where this goes. This one doesn't affect you and I, but the next one might. It certainly will when it gets to HN or Signal. But then it'll be too late. First they came for...

cry me a river
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