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It's not "embrace" because they made VSCode in the first place? I don't want to say MS is good, proprietary software is good, etc. But we're approaching the 4th decade of Free Software, and people should know better than tangling their free software with megacorp offering. I shed no tears.
I think it's based on Atom, isn't it?
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#102Not sure if related but I installed vscodium because everyone said it's vscode with the tracking disabled. Except there is no remote-ssh plugin. I live in that plugin. It worries me a bit although I know I'll find something new when I starts to bite me.
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Maybe not Safari, but they have open sourced WebKit and a lot of kernel modules and other useful things: https://developer.apple.com/opensource/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25675763
Saying Apple open sourced WebKit is a pretty funny way of seeing things.
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Why should they open source everything? I never see anyone complaining how Apple doesn't open source Safari or XCode. I mean there are plenty other totally open source editors out there to choose from.
Maybe not Safari, but they have open sourced WebKit and a lot of kernel modules and other useful things: https://developer.apple.com/opensource/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25675763
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Microsoft getting money from things like this is probably, on balance, a good thing. It helps justify resources to build, support, and improve it. Because every year, someone has to justify probably multi-million dollar budget lines for pylance / their python type checker.
That’s the other part I can’t figure out: where can people pay for this?
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Why should they open source everything? I never see anyone complaining how Apple doesn't open source Safari or XCode. I mean there are plenty other totally open source editors out there to choose from.
You can’t push something as a standard, claim that the fact that it is standardized allows for interoperability, benefit from the work other people do to conform to your standard, then prevent your own work from being used by others like you claimed would be possible. Apple sidesteps this issue by rarely promoting standards in the first place.
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#107In addition, Microsoft refuses to open source their remote VS Code implementation: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release See issue: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-remote-release/issues/17...
That extension is a competitive advantage that's crippling Jetbrains. Just business as usual.
I know that I wouldn't consider any new editor without one, as I almost always develop on a remote box.
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Well it's open source, so the community can maintain and support it if it wants to. Microsoft isn't obligated to maintain and support its old language server in perpetuity. Nor is it obligated to open source it's new language server, which it clearly sees as filled with secret sauce, being best in class and providing a significant competitive advantage that it doesn't want to give away for free to all of it's competi…
That's fine, but then they should please stop acting like they are the second coming of christ for Linux and Open Source. They are misleading their users.
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#109I hate to bring out the old “embrace, extend, extinguish” argument, but I honestly can’t think of any other reason for this. Visual Studio Code has gotten really popular lately, but I think very few people realize that many parts of it are closed source. And you can’t take extensions from the Microsoft store and use them in your own editor…this just seems designed to get people to use your editor, give them enough so…
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#110Microsoft is pro open source when it suits them. If there were in it for the long haul we would see things like Office for linux. Instead we see WSL. One or two CEO changes and they'll be back to litigation for patent infringement.
What you think would be the cost for porting and supporting Office to Linux? And how many Linux users would pay for desktop Office, either Office 365 subscription or one-time purchase? They're not charity. They have right to do whatever they want with their source.
Not sure on the effort required. I checked GH (not a Microsoft company...) but couldn't find the source code.
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