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Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

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Well that and the labor protections we do provide end up primarily benefiting businesses and unions over the individual workers themselves.

Same here in Europe. I don't believe it's possible to have unions (or governments) that work for the individual.

It's possible but the majority of stakeholders need to be actively engaged in managing that entity. Otherwise it will be taken oven by the bad actors trying to primarily benefit themselves.

Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here in Europe. I don't believe it's possible to have unions (or governments) that work for the individual.

It's possible but the majority of stakeholders need to be actively engaged in managing that entity. Otherwise it will be taken oven by the bad actors trying to primarily benefit themselves.

Yeah, but that ceases to work once that entity is too large. I personally think the limit is around 50 or so, but I don't see the need for union in a 50-head company.

I've literally never seen a functioning union anywhere I went (I live in Europe). Everyone I met in my life, in a bar, etc is angry at their unions.

Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

#55

Similar to the recent actions by Twitter, Google, Apple and Amazon; Visa and Mastercard are private companies and can do whatever they want. Anyone who has an issue with what Visa/MC did must also take issue with the others.

I'm willing to revise my take on the "big tech takedown" when someone explains to me how a random member of the American public can pay a pornographic performer/model without using Visa/Mastercard and in less than 24 hours. If there were no alternatives to Twitter, Android, iOS and AWS then I'd be as unhappy about that as I am about Visa/Mastercard's decision here. However, it's my judgement that there are alternativ…

Android/iOS is a duopoly as pervasive as Visa/MasterCard. The ither examples only to a much lesser degree.

Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

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I'm really glad that no one in this subthread proposed anything involving a blockchain.

"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

#57
sex work should be legalized and regulated, just like marijuana. sex work and porn has been a reality since the beginning of time, and making it "illegal" and letting it fester in dark corners is unhealthy. without proper education, acceptance, and oversight, it encourages predatory behavior and other mental health issues like porn addiction.

you don't have to think "porn is good" or "prostitution is good" to acknowledge that it is something that a large % of men consume and protect workers and consumers. we know that alcohol and drugs are bad, but they're legal and regulators do try to educate and protect the public. why not have the same for sex work?

Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

#58

Similar to the recent actions by Twitter, Google, Apple and Amazon; Visa and Mastercard are private companies and can do whatever they want. Anyone who has an issue with what Visa/MC did must also take issue with the others.

I'm willing to revise my take on the "big tech takedown" when someone explains to me how a random member of the American public can pay a pornographic performer/model without using Visa/Mastercard and in less than 24 hours. If there were no alternatives to Twitter, Android, iOS and AWS then I'd be as unhappy about that as I am about Visa/Mastercard's decision here. However, it's my judgement that there are alternativ…

There aren't really alternatives to Android/iOS. But I would say they need regulation too.

Payment is critical infrastructure. It's crazy that most of the world is subject to this duopoly.

Re: Sex workers say 'defunding Pornhub' puts their livelihoods at risk

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Moody doesn’t seem to care about the abuse or victims that is rampant in the industry, she just wants to get paid.

Not getting paid for your work is a form of abuse. None of us can solve all the world's ills and most of us focus on things that hit close to home.

Think of all the foundations that have been created because some wealthy celebrity (or a relative of theirs) had a particular medical condition.

Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research

https://www.michaeljfox.org/

Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation

https://www.christopherreeve.org/

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