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Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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The application was called Riot earlier and went through a rebranding in July 2020: https://element.io/blog/welcome-to-element/

It also called Vector before.

I suppose it's safe to assume a horrific atomic accident is on the horizon?

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The application was called Riot earlier and went through a rebranding in July 2020: https://element.io/blog/welcome-to-element/

It also called Vector before.

Both sound better than 'element' to me.

"Comms app" isn't exactly what I expect to be 'atomic', or 'simple', either. Aaand "Element Matrix Services"? bitch, please... XD

'Element' is so un-cybery, feels dated. First association is Bam Margera and teenage skateboard consumer culture. The uncool one, lacking punk rock and attitude. Such a 2000s word.

Anyway, naming things is hard and annoying, so I am glad they found something _they like <3

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Browsing f-droid recently, I found 2 other clients (second one based on Element codebase) also being actively developed: https://syphon.org/ https://schildi.chat/

Didn't know about Syphon! The design looks good. Hope it exits alpha soon!

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Browsing f-droid recently, I found 2 other clients (second one based on Element codebase) also being actively developed: https://syphon.org/ https://schildi.chat/

There are a lot of different clients, in various stage of development: https://matrix.org/clients/

Element is kind of the official full feature, basic client implementation but there are lighter clients with different flavors out there.

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I'm surprised Matrix is on the front page as much as it is. I mean, it's cool tech, and I use it myself, but it really seems like it's up there every other day. Is there an update that warrants this new post?

It's probably on the front page because of the Prosody post that is on the front page. Matrix is on the front page because it's really the only open protocol that has a chance of gaining non-technical users.

I run a matrix server, which has been nothing but a constant pain. My friends that use it can also use my ircv3 server or xmpp server that I run that use no resources and take up none of my time with maintenance. They do not. The only thing I've run that they like better so far is mattermost. I don't like the open core though. Matrix, xmpp and irc are backed by ldap which is impossible with mattermost.

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Maybe. Not very good PR when matrix.org is having massive performance issues all the time. What fascinates me the most about matrix is that an org could setup their own federation bubble. Like a big game company would setup a new synapse instance for each studio they purchase and just federate them all together for a sort of DIY MS Teams alternative.

afaik this is what France did with their government

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also called Vector before.

Both sound better than 'element' to me. "Comms app" isn't exactly what I expect to be 'atomic', or 'simple', either. Aaand "Element Matrix Services"? bitch, please... XD 'Element' is so un-cybery, feels dated. First association is Bam Margera and teenage skateboard consumer culture. The uncool one, lacking punk rock and attitude. Such a 2000s word. Anyway, naming things is hard and annoying, so I am glad they found s…

uncybery describes it well

Re: Element – All-in-one secure chat app for teams, friends and organisations

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So how much of a vps you need to host like 100k users? More users? I tried to look but couldnt find much information.

You would need a serious dedicated server if it was possible at all. Matrix as a protocol is excessively resource hungry, there’s a reason the default matrix.org server runs like treacle.
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