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Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by satysin »

stouset wrote: post #50
Daneel_ wrote: post #9

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I was a su-dough person until I realise that sudo stands for 'super user do' or 'su do', so I switched to soodoo - it makes a lot more sense that way. f-suck is a new one for me though. I would say F S C K to someone else, but I call it fusk in my head.

I’ve always called it “fusck”.

Yup put me down for "fusck" as well. I am probably inventing memories here but I think it is because whenever I saw a system announce it needed to fsck I would say "oh fuck" in my head (sometimes out loud).

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by chrisseaton »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #5

> chmod: as one syllable.. rhymes with 'nod' This is easy to do for many? In my experience, Anglo-Saxons can seldom pronounce “ GNU ” in one syllable, but they can this?

> In my experience, Anglo-Saxons can seldom pronounce “GNU” in one syllable

It’s just pronounced ‘new’ isn’t it? How many syllabus can you fit in that?

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by satysin »

hodgesrm wrote: post #8

MySQL pronunciation can be "My S Q L" or "My Sequel." I think most people in the community probably use the latter, but truthfully most of us don't really care. The "S Q L" vs. "Sequel" split has existed almost as long as SQL itself. The original name for the language was "SEQUEL." [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL#History

The first time I used MySQL the person showing me referred to it as "my squall" so that is always what I think when I see it read. I generally pronounce it 'my ess-que-ell' myself though.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by exikyut »

nisse72 wrote: post #91
bch wrote: post #77

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What’s better is that “My” has nothing to do with possession, and it’s pronounced “Me”: it’s Widenius’ daughters name[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Widenius

Well, as a Swedish speaker I will respectfully disagree with your pronunciation. To my ears the the y is not like the e in me, but I can't think of a good English equivalent. (in fact, the girls name actually sounds like the greek letter "mu" as it's spelled and pronounced in Swedish)

Where/how might I find a good pronunciation reference that would cover this construct/use?

English equivalents not necessary; I don't mind picking the appropriate tidbit out of a fragment of speech in a video for example.

I could just as easily stare at an IPA pronunciation for a bit too.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by vanpythonista »

brixie wrote: post #25

I recently wondered about the best way to pronounce commands of the `[...]ctl` family, which seem to get omitted from most of these lists I come across. I personally now use "cuttle", but am curious what others say (for example, Kubernetes [1] is one notable exception, search "cube control"). [1] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/CHANGEL...

I use "cuttle", but someone I know calls it kubec-tal (Q-beck-tal), which is the weirdest of all the variants.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by exikyut »

brobinson wrote: post #66
saurik wrote: post #29

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FWIW, much like a linguistic accent or regional dialect, using "sequel" tends to make you sound more like a Microsoft developer (definitely to people from my generation). This has been merging a bit in the last decade (mostly as the linguistic traditions of subcultures in general have been eroding from Eternal September and an entire generation passing), but it is still notable enough that people bring it up occasion…

I pronounced the individual letters until I called Microsoft support one day and the automated prompts said something like "For Microsoft 'Sequel' Server, press 3".

Now I'm genuinely curious what the modern equivalent of education by phone menu might be.

There's just so much information *everywhere* that we just aren't in isolated little universes anymore.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by dschuetz »

BossingAround wrote: post #108
dschuetz wrote: post #81

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Jeez, how did you get from correct pronunciation to anti-inclusive ?! Most people just want to know what you are talking about when you say libe or cat slash prots slash mem in fo or worse. Nothing is more infuriating when people start using wrong words in a 10h telco instead of agreed upon vocabulary, which includes the correct pronunciation! Scratch correct . It's the agreed upon pronunciation we all ought to use w…

> It's the agreed upon pronunciation we all ought to use when working together. Agreed upon by whom? By the in-group? Why does this "agreed-upon pronunciation" take precedence over the "agreed-upon pronunciation" of English?

> Why does this "agreed-upon pronunciation" take precedence over the "agreed-upon pronunciation" of English?

Excellent question. I don't know. People just assume that precedence as axiomatic (they just agree upon it), because it seems to work... well, easier with? More efficient? That's a subject for a study, I guess.

Of course by the in-group. People invent their own languages just to keep other peoples out of their culture or subculture. Since centuries. Another subject for a study. Knock yourself out, do the research and write a paper.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by yyyymmddhhmmss »

erikbye wrote: post #137
dvirsky wrote: post #82

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It takes some getting used to this idea, but I try to remember that when someone mispronounces an uncommon word or jargon term, it means that they're getting all their information through textual means - which probably means they don't have people close to them with the same interests or intellectual curiosity. That usually means, especially if it's a younger person, that they are smart and probably lonely.

> That usually means, especially if it's a younger person, that they are smart and probably lonely. What a weird asssumption to make. Projecting?

I make the same assumption, but I consider it the highest of honors to be one of these people. It means you spend your free time learning by way of your own curiosity in spite of everything else. This is nothing short of noble, in my view.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by layer8 »

adyavanapalli wrote: post #45

On a somewhat related note, I'd been internally pronouncing `reflog` in `git reflog` as REE-FLOG for the longest time. It wasn't until I finally needed to use it that REF-LOG made a lot more sense!

I still involuntarily vocalize it that way everytime I see it.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Post by dschuetz »

elric wrote: post #124
dschuetz wrote: post #101

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That's why people try to agree upon terms and their pronunciation first. Most languages are unintuitive and it's worse with tech jargon. So, when you work in tech business, or even in some tech club you cannot just walk in and talk like a child and expect everyone to treat you like an adult.

Exactly. It's just another thing to learn, and usually something you easily pick up through immersion. Jargon files (like The Jargon File [1]) are pretty amusing and can help illustrate where some of the quirkier conventions originated, but you can get by without them. [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/

Ah, I was thinking about that, thanks for the link! I was quite inspired by the Jargon File, back 15 years ago. But now it is wildly outdated. Flame wars are now called shitstorms and they are held on Twitter. Hackers are not really outcasts anymore, and there is a general acceptance of "hacker culture". Although hackers are now synonymous with foreign state agents rather than criminals.
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