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Re: PeerTube v3

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berkes wrote: post #150
riffic wrote: post #60

You can't put the ActivityPub ecosystem back inside its bottle. While it seems like (this is a commonly heard complaint) "no one is there", this is simply untrue. The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, but it doesn't need to happen immediately. It would be nice to see more media establish a presence there though. edit: one of my favorite PeerTube…

> The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. > > in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, Why do so many people insist on Growth and Largest, as metrics for 'success'? My local pub is a success. They are not worlds' largest pub. My Mom and Granny don't go there. They don't have parties with millions of people crammed in the place. Etc. Why can't Linux be called 'a success', the very moment…

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Post by berkes »

roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

> If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism

Just to be clear (and pedantic): Peertube is French.

One could see these fediversed projects as counter-SV, actually. Not 'coming from SV', but attacking the SV status quo.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by cfn »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #149
tastyfreeze wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying. PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.

> Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. That's the problem right there. "Content creators". Protein factories churning out videos for money. Not every platform needs "content creators" - sometimes people with interesting things to share are enough, and these tend to use side revenue to fund their sharing.

Spot on, YouTube was once full of people like that.

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Post by LockAndLol »

tastyfreeze wrote: post #116
jrnichols wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network If your main goal is "How can I make money?" then maybe. And that's one of the huge reasons that YouTube is the mess that it is. For the rest of us, this is not important at all. In fact, I am happy that there is no advertiser network whatsoever. if I put something on the web, I do not do it because I expect compensation. I am not alone in this s…

Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying. PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.

TL;DR We don't need ads.

There's a possibility to add donation links and the icon is then visible on every video. Patreon is big for a reason: people actually use it.

I'd rather donate to the content creators I want to see thrive than be bombarded with ads for things I don't want anyway.

The peertube devs refuse to incorporate monetization beyond donations, but they DO have a plugin system. It's not beyond imagination for someone (person or group) to add something like "paid scrobbling" where people add e.g 5€ on their account and then it's divided depending on certain criteria. That criteria could be for example:

- always give 50% to my subscriptions

- give the rest to creators of videos that I have watched which:

  * have these tags

  * are longer than 5 minutes

  * and that I have watched at least 50% or 5 minutes of, which ever comes first
All of these would be opt-in or course to reduce the likelihood of uploaders artificially lengthening or shortening their videos (those magic 10 minutes on youtube), or trying to discover common user settings and tailoring their videos to fit those settings.

Tada. No ads, user-defined distribution of resources, yada yada.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by berkes »

reilly3000 wrote: post #129

How does content like child pornography dealt with on peertube?

On lower levels.

If you would live in a country where CP is accepted, rent a server or VPS there, get your domain there, get SSL there, and maybe accept only local payments, you'd be 'fine'. As in: nothing will stop you.

You can replace CP with 'copyrighted material', or 'political activity' etc. in above.

Turned around: the providers, and/or operators of a node (server, instance) are liable. Not the platform.

As it should be, IMO.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by LockAndLol »

moreati wrote: post #148
Nic0 wrote: post #135

Framasoft who is behind this is famous in french opensource community for almost two decade. I guess it's unknown outside France?

Probably. I've also been in Open Source around 20 years, UK based. I don't recall hearing about Framasoft before.

Opensource needs to somehow unify. With more awareness of open-source developers and projects between each other, we could maybe make some real difference.

Opensource devs and maintainers could all from each other and collaborate together.

Damn... I sound like a business person that throws around words like synergy.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by sundarurfriend »

Some Peertube instances useful for English speakers:

https://peertube.nielsemmer.com/videos/local?a-state=42 Documentaries, scitech talks, a few explanatory videos

https://tilvids.com/ Varied. 'Fun facts' videos, educational, cooking, mythology, music, ...

https://peerkids.com/videos/trending?a-state=42 Peertube for kids - cartoons, education stuff from TEDEd, PBS, etc. that look fun and well-made

https://peertube.opencloud.lu/videos/overview Privacy, how-to videos, conference talks

https://share.tube/videos/most-liked?a-state=42 Tech reviews and opinions, FOSS tools, gaming, etc.

https://v.pfaff.dev/videos/most-liked?a-state=42 Tech tool reviews, privacy

https://conf.tube/ Conference talks

(I collected these some time back in response to someone asking for this, appropriately enough, on Mastodon.)

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by zimbatm »

> On this occasion, we launched a fundraising campaign, with the aim of financing the €60,000 that this development would cost us.

It's amazing how much was achieved with so little money. Compared to many startups that raised 1M for a year and barely have a product after that.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by LockAndLol »

ge96 wrote: post #42

Random side note, what if they have a mass-marketed "echo-like" device that is to form a meshnet that's not part of the regular internet. Would it happen? I get it's not like a trans atlantic line connecting continents and bandwidth etc... but other than jamming it would be "free". The other paranoia is hardware backdoor/software itself eg. AES encryption... seems overkill

There are meshnet projects out there. As for devices, you could try the Freedombox?

https://freedombox.org/#get

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