So this is how Mozilla and EFF go down. All to dunk on a president that was already leaving in 11 days (miss me with your conspiracy theories about how a bunch of random people taking over one building would be a successful coup to keep Trump as the president lmao, children). Looks like these companies don't really stand for anything.
EFF's Response to Social Media Decisions to Block President Trump’s Accounts
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#12Dear EFF, Is this seriously your official position? That far from taking a hardline stance against censorship, you're instead in agreement and commend this coordinated censorship and slippery slope? If this is the case, you are not the EFF that I or the internet know or loved. This is not about whether or not we like Donald Trump or anything. This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the Presid…
> This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the President of the United States of America for no other reason than their own political views.
Pretty sure it's because they think his usage of his platform contributed to a violent insurrection on the US capitol building that killed 5 people and, had it not been managed, likely included assaults on US representatives.
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#13yet both 2020 candidates have spoken of an outright repeal of Section 230. Biden has said it should be "revoked immediately." 2021 is not going to be a good year for internet freedoms.
We had a free internet (as much as it ever was) before Facebook and Twitter though. Is section 230 really about internet freedoms? Walk me through your thinking if you would? In my mind the major effect of 230 is promoting centralized sites that really don't seem to have any good effect on society.
230 protects all intermediaries equally.
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#14yet both 2020 candidates have spoken of an outright repeal of Section 230. Biden has said it should be "revoked immediately." 2021 is not going to be a good year for internet freedoms.
We had a free internet (as much as it ever was) before Facebook and Twitter though. Is section 230 really about internet freedoms? Walk me through your thinking if you would? In my mind the major effect of 230 is promoting centralized sites that really don't seem to have any good effect on society.
Section 230 was used to defend a public library from a lawsuit after a kid used its computers to look at porn. It protects hobby websites where members share knitting tips. It protects Hacker News. Repealing it would be disastrous.
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#15yet both 2020 candidates have spoken of an outright repeal of Section 230. Biden has said it should be "revoked immediately." 2021 is not going to be a good year for internet freedoms.
We had a free internet (as much as it ever was) before Facebook and Twitter though. Is section 230 really about internet freedoms? Walk me through your thinking if you would? In my mind the major effect of 230 is promoting centralized sites that really don't seem to have any good effect on society.
Section 230 protects all entities with user-generated content, that includes Facebook and Twitter as well as Uncle Frank's Model Train Forum. The repeal of 230 would essentially cement those centralized sites as the sole platforms however, as Uncle Frank doesn't have paid moderation teams or a legal department, and only makes $7.44 ad revenue each month. Frank won't be able to afford the legal costs if someone starts spamming it with libelous content and he's busy and doesn't get around to taking the posts down for a couple days.
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#16Dear EFF, Is this seriously your official position? That far from taking a hardline stance against censorship, you're instead in agreement and commend this coordinated censorship and slippery slope? If this is the case, you are not the EFF that I or the internet know or loved. This is not about whether or not we like Donald Trump or anything. This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the Presid…
> This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the President of the United States of America for no other reason than their own political views.
First they came for the most powerful person on the planet, and I said nothing...
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you really comparing the actions of East German secret police with being banned from social media? This is ridiculous.
The left used to defend free speech in the public square. Such as when neo-nazis marched in Skokie where many Jewish Holocaust survivors lived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_Am... There's nothing wrong with the opinion of being against free speech, it's just quite sad how far we've fallen. Only allowing the speech you agree with is not free speech.
I can't tell if you're spreading misinformation on purpose.
You're referring to the American Nazi party as "the left".
From your link: "his Neo-Nazi group, the NSPA, would regularly hold demonstrations in Marquette Park".
Firstly: you're mislabeling the radical right wing. Secondly: they they're right wing goes against your point.
Are you confused because "national socialist" (which is what nazi stands for) has the word socialist?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you really comparing the actions of East German secret police with being banned from social media? This is ridiculous.
The left used to defend free speech in the public square. Such as when neo-nazis marched in Skokie where many Jewish Holocaust survivors lived: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_Am... There's nothing wrong with the opinion of being against free speech, it's just quite sad how far we've fallen. Only allowing the speech you agree with is not free speech.
Do you understand the difference between free speech and conspiracy? Between opinions and inciting?
If not these are all just words you found that when strung together elicit an emotional response from yourself, and from others. A strong reaction doesn’t mean something is true, or makes sense. It just means your monkey brain reacted to it. Wisdom is separating the two.
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#19Dear EFF, Is this seriously your official position? That far from taking a hardline stance against censorship, you're instead in agreement and commend this coordinated censorship and slippery slope? If this is the case, you are not the EFF that I or the internet know or loved. This is not about whether or not we like Donald Trump or anything. This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the Presid…
> This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the President of the United States of America for no other reason than their own political views. Pretty sure it's because they think his usage of his platform contributed to a violent insurrection on the US capitol building that killed 5 people and, had it not been managed, likely included assaults on US representatives.
But they said, in not so many words, that if the platforms are going to hold normal users to a standard, they should hold public figures to an equal (or IMO, greater) standard instead of letting them have more privileges. I don’t really see a problem with that, except for how deadpan the delivery is.
They don’t because pandering pays the bills. But if pandering doesn’t bother you, there are more lucrative forms and you can just do away with the pretense and get to the pandering.
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#20Dear EFF, Is this seriously your official position? That far from taking a hardline stance against censorship, you're instead in agreement and commend this coordinated censorship and slippery slope? If this is the case, you are not the EFF that I or the internet know or loved. This is not about whether or not we like Donald Trump or anything. This is about the fact that social media platforms just censored the Presid…
Trump’s “political views” include inciting violence to overturn the election.