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50% isn't really the right number, is it? Where did you get it? If you're counting people's political beliefs, the popular vote is a good estimator.
I think this was just an approximation. Nonetheless the order of magnitude is right.
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> Another side told people that their country was being stolen from them and only they could stop it before telling them to go to the capital. Was it or wasn't it being stolen? Do you have a debunking of Matt Braynard's argument? [1] I presume not, since one hasn't been presented, because the evidence hasn't been examined or litigated, which is why hundreds of thousands of people went to the capital. What should the…
I invested the time to read the link. To save others the effort, it's a plea for money to support a vague voter data cross referencing effort. Unsurprisingly no evidence is put forward.
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> The fact remains that the President gathered tens of thousands of people and, with a torrent of lies, weaponized them into an attack on the United States. Just because it failed doesn't make it any less grave of a crime. I cannot fathom why you keep saying this. Please present some evidence.
If you believe Trumps claims of malfeasance are true then the burden of proof lies with you. These matters were addressed in courts throughout the nation and 60 lawsuits failed to prove them.
The left completely controls the MSM at this point. It's unsurprising that large swathes of officials, including judges, are unwilling to investigate their narrative for fear of being branded and extremist of one flavor or another. The right knows this, and so doesn't trust outcomes that aren't transparent. The left knows this too, but has no incentive to correct it, in spite of the damage it's going to cause to our democracy.
I have the feeling we're about to find out in the US precisely how the left can go too far, and how Americans respond to it.
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> But I must say, he asked for a protest, not for them to storm the Capital He's not completely stupid, at least in the short term. I'll give him that. The fact is, however, that he made breathtaking, wholly unfounded claims of a vast conspiracy that if you believed them would lead you to believe that a revolution was in order and completely appropriate. Then he turned them loose on the Capitol.
Vast electoral interference conspiracies are an old tactic at this point. Impeachment is generally a more favoured response than revolution. Neither the conspiracy nor the resolution make sense, but that isn't a big deal in politics. It is a stupid conspiracy, the gap in the popular vote is overwhelming and Trump was only ever going to get in on electoral college technicalities. But this meme that Trump is the first…
I recall some arguments in Congress, but to call it a 'direct mimic' is complete nonsense. The election was conceded immediately by the Clinton campaign as soon as it was called by the networks.
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Turns out all you need for a coup is about 70 lightly armed boomers and a few zip ties.
80 Cubans would be a better choice, but if circumstances are right, 70 people is plenty to make good on threats such as lynching the vice president. Just because they chose a bumbling buffoon as savior figure doesn't mean they can be dismissed as harmless.
Glad they got him. We were THIS close to the end of the US, I tell ya'.
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Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…
I think sometimes we judge events based on the outcomes not on the intent. If one of those people who got inside the building gained access to one of the members of Congress or Vice President Pence and took them hostage or harmed them, would you think that it were closer to a coup attempt? There were reports of how the National Guard seemed to be getting delayed because of not having the approval of, I believe, the P…
Feel free to complain about the delays in requesting additional police from nearby cities, or the inability of the few thousands police officers for not be able to secure the building and the people inside. Complain that they did not have a good plan and assessment of the situation. But please, do not complain that they did not send the military. It is never a good idea unless the other side also have military gear and military training operated by a military organization.
Would anyone here be happier of the military was used against the rioters in the capital and a few hundred or thousand people died from machine fire?
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They did reach the floor. Some topless dude with horns and a fur cape pranced about the dais. And guess what? We're fine. You're pulling together a handful of facts from a massive event composed of trillions of facts and weaving them into a conspiracy. It was what it appeared to be. A rally that got out of hand.
So this is just a rally that got out of hand, harmless. I wonder - would you stand up for them if the crowd was a BLM crowd, and the outcomes the same? Would you stand up for them if it were a Muslim crowd, and the outcomes the same? If you would then that's admirable and consistent, so fair enough
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Turns out all you need for a coup is about 70 lightly armed boomers and a few zip ties.
80 Cubans would be a better choice, but if circumstances are right, 70 people is plenty to make good on threats such as lynching the vice president. Just because they chose a bumbling buffoon as savior figure doesn't mean they can be dismissed as harmless.
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Turns out all you need for a coup is about 70 lightly armed boomers and a few zip ties.
An ISIS technical has more firepower than this. Oooooh 11 molotovs.... more than that were used in a number of demos this past summer... It’s a willful exaggeration and narrative driving.
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If you believe Trumps claims of malfeasance are true then the burden of proof lies with you. These matters were addressed in courts throughout the nation and 60 lawsuits failed to prove them.
Not really. The vast majority were thrown out on procedural grounds. The left completely controls the MSM at this point. It's unsurprising that large swathes of officials, including judges, are unwilling to investigate their narrative for fear of being branded and extremist of one flavor or another. The right knows this, and so doesn't trust outcomes that aren't transparent. The left knows this too, but has no incent…
You'll be reassured to know they'll still be litigated soon.
Dominion is coming for Sidney Powell over her fabricated claims, and I hope she gets a dignified, humane arrangement with a local homeless shelter after they're done with her.[1]
I encourage everyone to read the entire filing. It's going to be a fun ride, I'm really looking forward to this case being heard in court.
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/dominion-sues-sidney-powell-...