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Post by cygx »

potato wrote: post #155
michaelmrose wrote: post #147

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A few of my favorite things that were brought to the capital. Zip ties, several guns, 11 molotov cocktails, 2 pipe bombs. Guliani also asked Tuberville to object to every state which if acted on would have required at least 11 days of 12 hour sessions with an armed angry mob outside. When they finally attacked it took hours to authorize the national guard to defend the capital giving the mob maximum time to terrorize…

Turns out all you need for a coup is about 70 lightly armed boomers and a few zip ties.

80 Cubans would be a better choice, but if circumstances are right, 70 people is plenty to make good on threats such as lynching the vice president.

Just because they chose a bumbling buffoon as savior figure doesn't mean they can be dismissed as harmless.

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Post by trident5000 »

michaelmrose wrote: post #154
trident5000 wrote: post #141

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Anyway, my point here is not to defend trump. Just to point out that both sides caused riots over the past 6 months with leaders egging them on and 1 side was penalized.

Take your fine people on both sides argument somewhere else. One side acknowledged that people had a legitimate reason to protest cops offing black people while specifically discouraging rioting. Another side told people that their country was being stolen from them and only they could stop it before telling them to go to the capital.

"Take your fine people on both sides argument" I had no idea I was even making that argument or that was a topic of discussion. But I believe your summery of what happened is not exactly accurate.

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Post by tetrometal »

alisonkisk wrote: post #150
trident5000 wrote: post #141

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Anyway, my point here is not to defend trump. Just to point out that both sides caused riots over the past 6 months with leaders egging them on and 1 side was penalized.

Show me where both sides' leaders egged on rioters.

Kamala Harris directly funded the defenses of violent rioters: https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/31/meet-the-rioting-crimin...

It is a tried-and-true tactic of the left to provide legal services to rioters to embolden them in their terrorism.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by dleslie »

chr1 wrote: post #91
dleslie wrote: post #45

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Censorship is the Government stating that person A must not communicate with person B. Deplatforming/cancelling is person C _asking_ person A not to communicate with person B, under threat of person C no longer communicating with person A.

Person C threatening to no longer communicate with person A, is different than person C threatening to do additional work to not conduct business with person A. This kind of weaponization of everyday business does not lead to anything good. And just like we would condemn shop owner refusing to sell to a customer based on race/hair color/ clothing style we need to condemn twitter refusing service to sci-hub, to Trump,…

Freedom of Association is a fundamental freedom in many countries, for good reason. I'll happily avoid services that happily and stubbornly provide platforms to white nationalists and similar wretches, like Parler and Gab, and it certainly does not bother me that such platforms may not welcome me.

Cults and similar certainly do use their ability to sever association to control their membership, but making that step and severing those bonds frees those same members from the harm of the cult.

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Post by michaelmrose »

vimy wrote: post #171
mullingitover wrote: post #163

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Overwhelmingly peaceful, massive, justified protests with scattered violence, versus highly targeted political violence instigated by the highest-ranking public official and based on an unvarnished lie. These things are the same to you?

If you think it was scattered and not organized you haven't been paying attention. 95 % of black lives matter protests were peaceful. There were 10600 demonstration events which leaves us with 500 riots. A massive number. Results: - Worsening of race relations - Billions of dollars in damage - Numerous stores and businesses, predominantly owned by black and latino Americans, destroyed. Those people, the very same we…

Where did you get the 10,600 number and the percentage that were peaceful?

Where is the proof that damaging riots were deliberately organized. I mostly saw white people looting under the cover of black people marching.

Where is the proof that it was primarily minority owned businesses that were damaged? Why would it take decades for these businesses to file a claim with their insurance and replace their merchandise and windows?

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Post by SergeAx »

mullingitover wrote: post #70
laurent92 wrote: post #31

> foreign values Not even foreign values. Only subset of foreign values which are only shared by the Silicon Valley. Beyond that, half the US people disagree with Google/Apple/Twitter/Facebook’s non-neutral stance on politics, who weighed their full weight in censoring 50% of the political spectrum. I will not call it the pied piper because Uganda weighs nothing, but the GAFA’s politics are now visible as directly ha…

> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…

If this is a crime then there should be an investigation in progress and some court orders made to prevent more criminal activity. Not an abrupt decision by... We don't even know who exactly made that decision.

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Post by tetrometal »

mullingitover wrote: post #167
trident5000 wrote: post #159

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I've been listening to both sides and I dont even think people understand where this stems from and why some people want answers. Phil Waldron's testimony is one of them https://youtu.be/rri6flxaXww?t=4924

I'm not watching any more debunked conspiracy theories, thanks. They've had their numerous days in court.

You sure about that? How many cases were thrown out on their merits vs. procedural grounds?

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Post by michaelmrose »

tetrometal wrote: post #124
mullingitover wrote: post #117

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Just trying to be clear, are you saying these events were justified, or that the attack on the US Capitol was justified?

They are obviously pointing out the hypocrisy and bias with which the left spins narratives. Here's a pointed question for you: Which was worse and by what measure, the BLM/Antifa riots of last year or the capitol building riot?

The maximum damage of those riots is a handful of people killed and businesses burned down. The maximum damage in the capital invasion is the loss of our democracy and way of life.

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Post by mc32 »

design-material wrote: post #200
trident5000 wrote: post #104

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I'm not really a fan. But I must say, he asked for a protest, not for them to storm the Capital. He probably wanted to stir it up, but never thought it would go that far. I have not seen any explicit tweets where he asked for that. The other thing I want to mention (in demonstrating the two standards) is that the dem leadership cheered on protests in the summer with battle like language which turned into far larger a…

If you're attempting to equate the contexts of systemic, on-going race-based manslaughter to someone fabricating a conspiracy theory (while offering no evidence, threatening other elected officials, rallying supporters, etc) then that is - purely in an academic sense - stupid.

If you look at per-police interaction statistics the narrative changes. All kinds of people die during interactions with police.

Now, what we can claim is that historical injustices have led to increased ratios of police interaction by different populations. That’s true. However, per interaction, the police are not more likely to be fatal to one group vs another. That’s a misrepresentation.

See: Simpson’s Paradox.

Given this it should behoove media and leaders to institute root changes that improve the “interaction” frequency.

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Post by michaelmrose »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #156
mullingitover wrote: post #105

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Let's not split hairs. When: You have the world's largest megaphone. You bring tens of thousands of hardline supporters to the Capitol on the day that officially seals the transfer of power. You and your henchmen spend hours forcefully lying and claiming that the entirety of the national election apparatus is in a conspiracy to steal the election. You tell them to march on the capitol to 'fight.' You are inciting a r…

> continue to say the election was stolen, and to say you love them You left out the last sentence, which was (paraphrasing) "Go home, go in peace."

Hours later after the plot had already failed.
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