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Re: 'Exercised' Explains Why It Can Be Hard to Commit to Working Out

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balfirevic wrote: post #27
boatsie wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear this opinion on Reddit as well. Yes, it is possible to get "tons of exercise" on your own using body weight, but it is not the same as barbell strength training. You are much more limited because actual strength training is a somewhat scientific process of progressive overload--adding 2-5 pounds per workout to an exercise. You cannot do this easily/precisely with body weight exercises, and additionally there i…

It's also not just about gyms. People who did sports (even if it was just playing badminton with buddies) have nothing that's even close.

That's not what this comment thread is discussing though. Nobody claims you can swim just as well at home as you can in a swimming pool. What is being discussed was this:

> I wonder how many people have been forced into a "sedentary" life style by COVID-19...

So to go from "you're forced to be sedentary" to "but you cannot badminton, so this is wrong" is a strange non sequitur.

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Post by analog31 »

geophile wrote: post #33

I hate exercising, but I do it religiously. I am 64 years old, and in the best shape of my life. Same weight (and weight distribution!) as in college, good muscle tone. I think three things were critical, for me: 1. Absolutely no soft drinks at all. Not with sugar, not with artificial sweeteners. Nothing. Just seltzer. I used to drink a LOT of Dr. Pepper, and was told that they were contributing to my frequent kidney…

Riding my bike to work kind of filled in items 2 and 3 for me, since work requires me to show up, and I usually have nothing else going on in the morning that can interfere. In the evening, well, now I can only get home if I ride.

Eventually it got to be a habit and then something that is hard to live without. I've substituted taking long walks while working from home.

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Post by ashwoods »

Someone1234 wrote: post #5
choeger wrote: post #2

I wonder how many people have been forced into a "sedentary" life style by COVID-19...

Outside medical complications caused by actually getting COVID-19, nobody. It is perfectly possible to get tons of exercise in your own home or apartment with no specific equipment. With an internet connection and free YouTube videos (dance, body weight training tutorials, et al) it is even pleasant . People often make a big song and dance about how they "need" that $400 bike or $1500 running machine, or "need" gym a…

What about older people who couldn't even have their daily walks for several months? Should they be squatting in their tiny apartments holding water bottles instead? I'm sure there are plenty of people who can work out at home, but I believe there are plenty of people who can't, or at least is a lot harder, for a variety of reasons.

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Post by canofbars »

egman_ekki wrote: post #52

> Hadza individuals are about 12 times more active than the average American or European. I find it hard to believe that these people make 60k steps daily, on average. Even if they make 2 steps a second, thats solid 8+ hours of rather brisk walking. If they walk more leisurely (not to mention gather something), it can easily be 10-12 hours of walking, unless I'm missing something.

I tried to do the math as well and I can't see how 60k steps on average works. From what I can see online your 2 steps per second is somewhat on the slow end but even at an ideal speed (apparently 180 steps per minute / 3 per second) you are still looking at 5.5 hours of running.

This seems achievable for someone very fit who wants to burn the weekend on an ultra long distance run but there is no way they are doing this daily.

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Post by hasbot »

Fricken wrote: post #57
grenoire wrote: post #54

I've started exercising around the time the lockdown started. I had been doing some occasional bouldering for a couple months before that, but starting lifting, then starting more seriously (3 times a week at least, plus miscellaneous training on off days) has really been life changing. I am so much more energised, feel so much healthier (whatever that means) overall. I'm pretty happy I started early, but can't stop…

Climber here, can confirm. I have never had to dig deep or play little tricks with myself to find the motivation to climb once the habit is established. I'm always looking forward to my next session, it's an intrinsically motivating activity. I've never been able to keep up a regular running or weightlifting routine for more than a couple months.

Climbing is an awesome sport. I used to occasionally climb w/ a guy in his 70's. I'm 56 now and hope I can climb for another 20 years. The big problem is lack of access. With the pandemic gyms are closed. The few climbing spots around here are hours away. I don't have the space now, but the house I'm designing now will have space for a climbing wall or Kilter board.

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Post by gonehome »

geophile wrote: post #33

I hate exercising, but I do it religiously. I am 64 years old, and in the best shape of my life. Same weight (and weight distribution!) as in college, good muscle tone. I think three things were critical, for me: 1. Absolutely no soft drinks at all. Not with sugar, not with artificial sweeteners. Nothing. Just seltzer. I used to drink a LOT of Dr. Pepper, and was told that they were contributing to my frequent kidney…

I’m not sure why 1 is critical - regular soft drinks sure, but diet soft drinks are fine.

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Post by Someone1234 »

ashwoods wrote: post #63
Someone1234 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside medical complications caused by actually getting COVID-19, nobody. It is perfectly possible to get tons of exercise in your own home or apartment with no specific equipment. With an internet connection and free YouTube videos (dance, body weight training tutorials, et al) it is even pleasant . People often make a big song and dance about how they "need" that $400 bike or $1500 running machine, or "need" gym a…

What about older people who couldn't even have their daily walks for several months? Should they be squatting in their tiny apartments holding water bottles instead? I'm sure there are plenty of people who can work out at home, but I believe there are plenty of people who can't, or at least is a lot harder, for a variety of reasons.

> What about older people who couldn't even have their daily walks for several months?

Why can't they? Health officials have said that outside walking (with a mask if near others) is reasonably safe, or you can pace walk in much smaller spaces if one wished.

Plus walking isn't the only exercise available to older people. They don't have to remain sedentary simply because their normal walking route closed.

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Post by balfirevic »

Someone1234 wrote: post #61
balfirevic wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also not just about gyms. People who did sports (even if it was just playing badminton with buddies) have nothing that's even close.

That's not what this comment thread is discussing though. Nobody claims you can swim just as well at home as you can in a swimming pool. What is being discussed was this: > I wonder how many people have been forced into a "sedentary" life style by COVID-19... So to go from "you're forced to be sedentary" to "but you cannot badminton, so this is wrong" is a strange non sequitur.

It is what the comment I was responding to was discussing. It acknowledges in it's second sentence that it's possible to get some kind of exercise but states that it's different enough that it makes perfect sense to say that COVID caused some people to become sedentary.

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Post by canofbars »

cmiller1 wrote: post #36
copperwater69 wrote: post #17

A problem I had was letting perfect be the enemy of good. I wanted the perfect workout program and wait for my fridge to be stocked with the right foods, the day to be correct so my arms won't be tired when driving and my leg won't be too sore to push in the clutch. Eventually I just did it and sorted out those other details later. If you're in the same position I recommend immediate action. Like just go do 50 squats…

> and wait for my fridge to be stocked with the right food This also relates to another human brain screwup I was talking to a friend about recently. They wanted to learn to do something but were waiting to take a class when there were all sorts of good free learning resources available for that skill. Sometimes your mind doesn't want to do something and you rationalize "okay I'll do it when I have X Y and Z" but rea…

>"okay I'll do it when I have X Y and Z"

This is pretty strongly related to a desire for consumerism. Most of us constantly make the mistake of thinking "I'm going to buy X which will make me start doing Y" when we already have the tools to do Y even if they are somewhat limited. Really we should only be considering buying something when we are using what we have to the fullest extent but feel an upgrade would be an improvement.

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Post by JPKab »

itsagavin wrote: post #23
JPKab wrote: post #18

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How do you consume the weed for your runs and exercise in general? Edibles, smoke, or vaping? Just wondering.

To clarify preworkout I use .15-.2 of a gram of extract smoked out of a quartz nail and water pipe. I use a similar amount in the evening. I no longer combust any flower and breath much easier because of it. I did use RSO an edible concentrate on the begining to get through the pain in the evening I was eating 150mg-200mg thc in a gelcap in the evening. Vape cartridges are an option but I've never found one I liked.…

Okay that's actually a pretty large quantity compared to what I consume and I don't want to imply any form of judgment.

I found that a vape pen with oil is okay but my favorite form is 10 mg edible before a workout. I particularly love it for trail runs and for weight lifting.

When I try the concentrate I found that it tended to irritate my lungs. Plus the additional potency of the edibles due to how THC breaks down in the digestive system is nice.

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