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Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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What if I’m enthusiastically against censorship and enthusiastically for deplatforming in cases like Trump? Which makes me strongly dislike the news in the post.

I'm not arguing for or against anything, but those views seem opposed to each other. Can you talk more about how you can allow for any form of de-platforming while also feeling strongly against censorship?

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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Does anyone else feel like we’re going down the path of internet Balkanization? Not in any immediate sense, but it seems like a slow rolling type of narrative that we will retrospectively see at the end of the 21st century. I don’t have any _real_ evidence to support this feeling of mine, but occasionally there are blips like this that make me wonder.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#43

Time to decentralize everything

Banning (or, more precisely, disturbing operation of) a decentralized service is much easier than a big, important centralized one. You just need to obtain the DNS names or IP addresses of the nodes the same way everyone else does — by participating in the network. This way you can even selectively ban the "bad" nodes. Banning a centralized service like gmail is easier, but then you lose in productivity as 90% of you…

> You just need to obtain the DNS names or IP addresses of the nodes the same way everyone else does — by participating in the network.

Not if such network was made purposefully to minimize transparency.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#44

> foreign values Not even foreign values. Only subset of foreign values which are only shared by the Silicon Valley. Beyond that, half the US people disagree with Google/Apple/Twitter/Facebook’s non-neutral stance on politics, who weighed their full weight in censoring 50% of the political spectrum. I will not call it the pied piper because Uganda weighs nothing, but the GAFA’s politics are now visible as directly ha…

50% isn't really the right number, is it? Where did you get it? If you're counting people's political beliefs, the popular vote is a good estimator.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I’m enthusiastically against censorship and enthusiastically for deplatforming in cases like Trump? Which makes me strongly dislike the news in the post.

I'm not arguing for or against anything, but those views seem opposed to each other. Can you talk more about how you can allow for any form of de-platforming while also feeling strongly against censorship?

Censorship is the Government stating that person A must not communicate with person B.

Deplatforming/cancelling is person C _asking_ person A not to communicate with person B, under threat of person C no longer communicating with person A.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#46
I wish there would be a societal awakening in Europe and people would boycott American services. Countries need to reclaim their digital sovereignty if they hope to preserve their culture. Back in college everyone I knew browsed reddit, 9gag, facebook, etc for hours every day. The european youth is getting raised by America and fed its political ideology one meme/discussion thread at a time. It took me a long while to realize I had been brainwashed. A lot of people I know tout themselves as citizens of the world, and consider nationalism a useless thing of the past, seemingly oblivious to the adversarial relationship we're in with our western allies wrt culture and trade.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#47

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how's "app store" critical infrastructure? internet access should be enough

"The internet" is both browser based web pages as well as various mobile phone based apps.

what critical stuff is not avaliable via web browser but is via app?

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#48
post #13

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how's "app store" critical infrastructure? internet access should be enough

What can you do on your Apple iPhone without Apple servers? Hint: it's nothing.

What can you do on your Apple iPhone without Apple servers? Hint: it's nothing.

The Apple devices I use that are too old to talk to Apple's servers disagree with you.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I’m enthusiastically against censorship and enthusiastically for deplatforming in cases like Trump? Which makes me strongly dislike the news in the post.

I'm not arguing for or against anything, but those views seem opposed to each other. Can you talk more about how you can allow for any form of de-platforming while also feeling strongly against censorship?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

it's a big hard to grasp, but just because you are for something doesn't mean you can't be against an individual participating in the thing you're for doing bad stuff.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

#50
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how's "app store" critical infrastructure? internet access should be enough

What can you do on your Apple iPhone without Apple servers? Hint: it's nothing.

Make phone calls? Send text messages? Or has Apple removed those features yet?
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