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Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by oblio »

slg wrote: post #22
st1x7 wrote: post #5

It's kind of sad to see how these threads quickly turn into a a messy sequence of poorly reasoned arguments or how some people are trying to justify really extreme positions.

It is interesting that this comment is written in a specifically vague way so no one can tell if the "extreme position" you are talking about is hanging the sitting VP or censoring social media. Therefore lots of people are going to upvote this thinking you are on their side and it is the other side that uses "poorly reasoned arguments" to defend their "really extreme positions."

The horoscope of political opinions. Read whatever you wish from your daily horoscope! :-)

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

Not long ago, there was a #guillotine hashtag on Twitter

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/guillotine2020?lang=en

Wasn’t ‘halted’.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/guillotine

https://mobile.twitter.com/notallbhas/status/124791247934001... : Bernie sanders’ plan c = guillotine

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by nevi-me »

dmode wrote: post #23

Why would a Trump supporter want to “hang Mike Pence” when he has been loyal to him for 4 years and just did his constitutional duty on the 6th ? I am lost for words

The extreme supporters are some of the people believing that the election was rigged, despite the inability to provide information that can convince an unbiased court.

If we extrapolate on this, can't we conclude/believe that some people who feel the system is betraying them, would see Mike Pence as conspiring with those stealing the elections?

Do some of those people value "constitutional duty" right now? If they did, they wouldn't have stormed the Capitol.

It's hard to understand people when there's a certain amount of conspiracy theories influencing their emotions. It's unfortunately one of the problems with politics. A bunch of people who make laws that mostly don't get to apply to them, get to say what they want, with little or no accountability.

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by technothrasher »

ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

Street Epistemology is the kind of thing I think can ultimately be successful. Instead of yelling at people or telling them their wrong and you're right, discuss with them how and why they come to their beliefs in a non-confrontational way. The hopeful result is that you both come away thinking about how better to examine what you believe.

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by corytheboyd »

dgellow wrote: post #40
corytheboyd wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Hang Mike Pence” is a call for violence.

That's what some of the protesters were screaming. It started trending when people pointed this fact, not as a support for it, but because people were freaking out and started to document/discuss it.

I get that it was said by protesters, and that it started trending because of that.

At the end of the day the phrase “Hang Mike Pence” ended up on the trending section of Twitter. Millions of people look at this. It was removed by Twitter, and it was the right call.

Justifying calls to violence due to “missing context” is a poor argument, and now is just not the time to toy with being lax on this.

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by xenocratus »

dgellow wrote: post #40
corytheboyd wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Hang Mike Pence” is a call for violence.

That's what some of the protesters were screaming. It started trending when people pointed this fact, not as a support for it, but because people were freaking out and started to document/discuss it.

Maybe they could've called it "Don't Hang Mike Pence" to clearly differentiate between the ones who supported and the ones who don't? but then again, I'm not up to date with Twitter etiquette :)

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Post by netcraft »

ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

What is the two sides exactly? There is a group that has produced no evidence for their claims and is threatening and acting out violence - is that one of the sides?

There is a point in which a particular group is no longer acting in good faith, and is taking advantage of the tolerance and ability to have discourse.

https://kottke.org/17/08/the-paradox-of-tolerance

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by blakesterz »

ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

> We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional.

You're partially right. We have at least two sides. One side is CLEARLY delusional. Fueled by conspiracy theories and lies. We also have other sides, but the two sides that get the most attention are the only sides that matter. We have one side that is most definitely delusional, other sides maybe have members who might be, but one side is DOMINATED by delusion.

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by ansible »

duxup wrote: post #48
ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

I don't know what to say to people who want someone else killed...

Almost everyone (including really terrible people) don't want people killed. That is why it is often necessary to de-humanize the enemy. We give them labels, make them not worthy of the protections of civil society, and then it is justified if they die. Because they are not people anymore.

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Post by skosuri »

ansible wrote: post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

For the last twenty years I thought things would eventually just come back to center. I’m not sure anymore. It’s possible it’s as follows: One side will win. History will be written by those winners. Pick your side and fight for it?
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