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ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Re: ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Post by zepto »

zadokshi wrote: post #66
Pils wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google bans Parler, conservative Twitter Shows up for me: https://www.google.com/search?q=parler If they didn't want to get banned from the app stores, they should've at least tried to follow the TOS. There is a subreddit dedicated to cataloguing all the death threats on the app, many of which are still up today: https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/top/?t=month . Reddit, Facebook and Twitter have entire content mo…

The discussion is not about if a 'free speech app' can have a website. The discussion is about if a 'free speech app' can have an app.

Is there a difference between a ‘free speech app’ and a ‘death threat app’?

Re: ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Post by gameswithgo »

verroq wrote: post #69
gumby wrote: post #23

The man literally has a press office and a press staff. There are any number of outlets who will cling to his every word in order to praise or criticize it. I don't use twitter and seem to learn what is said. It is difficult to see what the problem is.

Yes but do you? When Twitter suspends your speech do you have a press office to get your word out? If they dare to do it to the president you think they have any reservations about censoring anyone else?

yes, because if they censor too much then parler or any other startup can easily rise up and compete. the barrier to entry is very very low here if there are pissed off users ready to flee. parler being a prime example

Re: ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Post by mbreese »

zadokshi wrote: post #66
Pils wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google bans Parler, conservative Twitter Shows up for me: https://www.google.com/search?q=parler If they didn't want to get banned from the app stores, they should've at least tried to follow the TOS. There is a subreddit dedicated to cataloguing all the death threats on the app, many of which are still up today: https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/top/?t=month . Reddit, Facebook and Twitter have entire content mo…

The discussion is not about if a 'free speech app' can have a website. The discussion is about if a 'free speech app' can have an app.

It’s also not even that. The discussion is if someone has to distribute a “free speech app”. The issue is a little more complex for Apple if/when they ban Parler, as you can’t (easily) side load apps on iOS. But Google only banned them from the Google Play store, thus limiting their distribution. You can still use the app, and side load to install. (I think this makes Android’s position a little more tenable here...)

They still have their app and website. And you can still get to their website from a phone.

Re: ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Post by courtf »

nostromo wrote: post #44
courtf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's funny, it seems they were perfectly happy to try starting their own country a couple days ago.

Autonomous zones for me but not for thee. Listen, I’m center left and oppose all this craziness. But the tech giants banning these accounts is counterproductive. Violence will increase not decrease as extremists are pushed out of the public square and into echo chambers and non-public Signal groups. “A riot is the language of the unheard” remember?

"an insurrection is the language of the unheard"

Hmm doesn't have quite the same ring.

Try this one:

"We shall fight them on the beaches... we shall never surrender"

Or would you prefer appeasement?

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Post by zepto »

ceilingcorner wrote: post #77
zadokshi wrote: post #4

I don’t care what side your politics are. When corporations can so easily control the voice of the elected leader of a country (one who has genuine legitimate support or about half of the country), I become very scared for the future. Corporations should not have more power than the elected officials.

It is extremely bizarre to me to watch the left cozy up to corporations. What happened to Occupy Wall Street, Chomsky, the real counterculture?

Occupy Wall Street ended because of its own dysfunction.

Re: ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Post by verroq »

gameswithgo wrote: post #82
verroq wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but do you? When Twitter suspends your speech do you have a press office to get your word out? If they dare to do it to the president you think they have any reservations about censoring anyone else?

yes, because if they censor too much then parler or any other startup can easily rise up and compete. the barrier to entry is very very low here if there are pissed off users ready to flee. parler being a prime example

Sure looks anti-competitive when Parler is deleted from all the app stores now doesn’t it? And we have people vocally calling for Cloudflare and AWS to deny them hosting services.

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Post by ceilingcorner »

zepto wrote: post #86
ceilingcorner wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is extremely bizarre to me to watch the left cozy up to corporations. What happened to Occupy Wall Street, Chomsky, the real counterculture?

Occupy Wall Street ended because of its own dysfunction.

I don’t mean what literally happened to it, I mean what happened to the values it represented. It’s barely been a decade and now the left has done a 180 on its relationship to corps.

Re: ACLU Counsel Warns of 'Unchecked Power' of Twitter, Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

nostromo wrote: post #44
courtf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's funny, it seems they were perfectly happy to try starting their own country a couple days ago.

Autonomous zones for me but not for thee. Listen, I’m center left and oppose all this craziness. But the tech giants banning these accounts is counterproductive. Violence will increase not decrease as extremists are pushed out of the public square and into echo chambers and non-public Signal groups. “A riot is the language of the unheard” remember?

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