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Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by AsyncAwait »

nimbleal wrote: post #772
pjc50 wrote: post #322

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Other way round: anyone on the left is used to unfair treatment. The app reporting drone strike locations was banned years ago. Apple caused tumblr to self-destruct. Just this time the policy is actually in our favor. Unlimited incitement to violence is not sustainable. Banning them for this is the start ; America is going to have a long uncomfortable process of dealing with its media.

Interested to know you see the drone strike app as a left issue? I don’t think opinions on foreign intervention fall very neatly along the left-right spectrum

I think what falls more on the left is caring that the drone strikes kill 90% civilians.

The right is much more inclined to agree with the characterization that it's mostly terrorists we're killing or that why are civilians around them.

To what some on the right might object is why are we spending all this money on this, which they might even arrive at ultimately the same conclusion as the left but for a different reason.

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Post by camel_Snake »

smaryjerry wrote: post #810
camel_Snake wrote: post #807

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> The point is this is all blown out of proportion simply because law makers themselves were involved. Not entirely true. Much of it is just plain old politics. This was a massive unforced-error by the President, many of his supporters in congress, and his fanatical base. Do you recall how many years we heard about Benghazi? How many hearings, investigations, and committees there were? This incident was objectively w…

Look up the Portland protests from earlier this year. Hundreds literally stormed a federal building attempting to light it on fire, throwing fireworks, Molotov a, and other objects all-night. The protesters dressed up in outfits with gas masks, helmets, lasers, and much more. That building was some how protected from people but the capitol building couldn’t be? Not only that but it was literally not on any of these m…

> That building was some how protected from people but the capitol building couldn’t be?

It could have, but the DoD and Trump by extension purposefully weakened security and delayed sending in reinforcements to help.

> The mayor literally went out to protest with them yet nothing happened to him.

Was he violent? Did he break any laws? You realize there were multiple former and current Republican elected officials among the seditionists in DC?

> But some how here the death was by the police shooting the protester and some how this is violent?

Well when you have multiple deaths by violence, yes. The below video I found uncomfortable and disturbing, but I link it to provide evidence this was not a nonviolent protest. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/01/09/officer-crushed-in-...

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Post by [deleted] »

valuearb wrote: post #410
dilap wrote: post #341

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I think a better analogy is saying, oh, you've banned newspapers, but who cares, you can still talk to people in person. Which is to say, it's true, & that's a good thing, but that doesn't mean that the censorship itself isn't bad. The most effective, most powerful communication medium that exists right now is native apps for social networks on smartphones. If 100% of that medium is controlled and censored by two com…

I think you mean to say that if you aren’t allowed to walk into anyone else’s home or business, and yell your opinions into their face, your rights to free speech have somehow been infringed. My analogy is far more accurate than your tortured newspaper analogy. Parlour still gets to publish unrestricted as a web site and as web apps, it just doesn’t get free distribution, marketing and hosting from Google or Apple.

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Post by wnevets »

setr wrote: post #784
wnevets wrote: post #740

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Send me the links to the replies you think are bad.

I don’t understand, isn’t that what I did? Or I suppose, a link to a reply with screenshots of tweets clearly posted to Twitter?

Your link sends me to a tweet of screenshots of other people planning violence. How do I report those tweets if they're screenshots?

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Post by wnevets »

whiddershins wrote: post #809
wnevets wrote: post #517

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>Ah, we’ve had nonsense like that all over the internet for decades. and how many times has that led to storming the US Capitol building with guns and bombs?

Never. That’s my point. Why change the entire way we manage the internet based on one incident after decades of relatively little problems? How do we know the capitol thing wouldn’t have happened anyway?

How is removing a twitter clone from an app store changing the way we manage the internet?

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Post by dilap »

Can_Not wrote: post #796
dilap wrote: post #667

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That's a good point actually. I'm on iPhone; is distributing software via side-loading on Android actually practicle, or is it such a pain that it becomes non-workable in practice?

It is practical actually, it's like downloading an exe or dmg with maybe an extra security hurdle (settings -> enable installing apps from $X). Plus you could make your own play store clone like F-droid and I think amazon made their own, too.

OK, that actually makes me much more sympathetic to Google exercising a lot of editorial control of the Play store.

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Post by jude- »

MrRiddle wrote: post #780
jude- wrote: post #626

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Under the current anti-discrimination laws, political affiliation is not a protected class. Religion, race, sexuality, etc., however, are.

Meaning I can post a sign "No Trump Voters Allowed" on my restaurant?

Sure thing. Right next to the commonplace "no shirt, no shoes, no service" and "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" signs.

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Post by auslegung »

lambdaphagy wrote: post #756
auslegung wrote: post #690

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I guess you didn't read my response, I said "Whenever people historically have stormed the capital building, everyone coordinates to ban them from their platforms." Your "rebuttal" lists no one who stormed The Capital Building (sorry should've put that in bigger letters)

Does bombing the Capitol strike you as a qualitatively lesser offense? I say they are both bad. What do you think?

You took my pithy hot take as a literal statement. So I took your statement quite literal

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Post by ekianjo »

anigbrowl wrote: post #105
ekianjo wrote: post #45

Surely there's no coordination of censorship going on.

Why would there be? People can see each other, it's very common for a first mover to set off a rush.

Oh yeah ? And all happens on the same day ? How peculiar.

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Post by ekianjo »

bun_at_work wrote: post #567
ekianjo wrote: post #83

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> But not all censorship is bad. pretty much all dictators agree with you on that.

Yeah this is a valid point here. If you think it should be illegal to yell "fire" in a crowded theater, you're a dictator. If you think it should be illegal to create/sell/distribute child porn, you're a dictator. Nice false equivalence. The US is divided right now because of bad faith arguments like this.

Interesting how you cherry picked political speech out.
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